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I really like the 10x fixed Super Sniper that I have on my cm. It works fine near and far without jacking with a power ring.


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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
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Mine originally wore a VX3i 2.5-8 before it took a chit mid season. Now it wears a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x42, NF ultralights, and Talley 0 moa rail.

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This scope and rifle are made for each other. It should just be sold as a system like that, pre-zeroed with a dope card in the box, so boring. I am using the same expect LW Talley direct mounts.



If you can put up with SFP and the reticle selection, then it's a great scope. I can't like either, so it's a pass for me.


A FFP reticle in a 2.5-10x scope isn't going to do much good anyway. People already find some of the NF reticles hard to pick up in some lighting conditions, think how bad it would be on 2.5x.

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Originally Posted by DV_Ramrod
Mine originally wore a VX3i 2.5-8 before it took a chit mid season. Now it wears a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x42, NF ultralights, and Talley 0 moa rail.

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I'm leaning slightly towards the Nightforce 2.5-10x42 with IHR or MOAR reticle because it seems to check the most boxes. What's this about the reticle being too thin?

Do the VX-5HD and VX-6HD Leupolds have the same tracking issues as the VX3i? What about the Swaro Z5 3.5-18?

As a backup I may consider the SWFA series but they look really big, I should mention I've only owned one 30mm scope (an original VX-6 2-12 that I sent down the road).

Planning to order the rifle tomorrow morning...

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Originally Posted by MJSaustin
I'm leaning slightly towards the Nightforce 2.5-10x42 with IHR or MOAR reticle because it seems to check the most boxes. What's this about the reticle being too thin?

Do the VX-5HD and VX-6HD Leupolds have the same tracking issues as the VX3i? What about the Swaro Z5 3.5-18?

As a backup I may consider the SWFA series but they look really big, I should mention I've only owned one 30mm scope (an original VX-6 2-12 that I sent down the road).

Planning to order the rifle tomorrow morning...


I have both of those reticles and they are far easier to see than the SWFA SS MilQuad or MOAQuad reticles, which I also have.

(Sold the MilQuad as it was my least favorite of all of those.)

The IHR is a nice reticle if you like a plain duplex, but the MOAR provides more useful information.

The IHR reticle only has the center crosshair illuminate, which is nice in very low light.

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Originally Posted by MJSaustin
I'm leaning slightly towards the Nightforce 2.5-10x42 with IHR or MOAR reticle because it seems to check the most boxes. What's this about the reticle being too thin?



Hunted a couple of hours with the IHR this evening and have been using it for several weeks now. The floating part of the reticle is very thin....and I'm starting to kinda like it. If the bars were heavier and (at least) filled rather than hollow I'd be happier. The thin floating section is nice for the precision but does get lost very easily on movers, in thick stuff, in heavy sunlight/shadows, and especially as the light fades. Heavier, black filled reticle would help. The illumination is great as light fades....if the battery ever wears out it will be useless as light fades.

Widen and fill the bars on the reticle and it will be good to go.

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Originally Posted by MJSaustin
I'm leaning slightly towards the Nightforce 2.5-10x42 with IHR or MOAR reticle because it seems to check the most boxes. What's this about the reticle being too thin?

Do the VX-5HD and VX-6HD Leupolds have the same tracking issues as the VX3i? What about the Swaro Z5 3.5-18?

As a backup I may consider the SWFA series but they look really big, I should mention I've only owned one 30mm scope (an original VX-6 2-12 that I sent down the road).

Planning to order the rifle tomorrow morning...


Same old erector system on the VX5 and VX6. I trust the swaro Z5 slightly more but it's not built for a lot of dialing. I think it will work for an occasional dialed hunting shot but wouldn't trust it on a range gun that would be dialed often. It's definitely not built for dialing like the SWFA. Yes,the 3-9 SWFA seems big and awkward with those huge turrets till you get use to it. It's actually only 3 ounces heavier than the Z5.

I say that having owned both the 3-9 SWFA and the Swaro Z5. I use the Z5 on one rifle but only because ejection angle won't allow the SWFA.

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Originally Posted by MJSaustin
I'm leaning slightly towards the Nightforce 2.5-10x42 with IHR or MOAR reticle because it seems to check the most boxes. What's this about the reticle being too thin?


Try one, I don't find them to be too thin, some do. Keep in mind the NXS has illumination too which is helpful for times when the reticle gets lost.


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Originally Posted by wareagle700
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Originally Posted by DV_Ramrod
Mine originally wore a VX3i 2.5-8 before it took a chit mid season. Now it wears a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x42, NF ultralights, and Talley 0 moa rail.

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This scope and rifle are made for each other. It should just be sold as a system like that, pre-zeroed with a dope card in the box, so boring. I am using the same expect LW Talley direct mounts.



If you can put up with SFP and the reticle selection, then it's a great scope. I can't like either, so it's a pass for me.


A FFP reticle in a 2.5-10x scope isn't going to do much good anyway. People already find some of the NF reticles hard to pick up in some lighting conditions, think how bad it would be on 2.5x.

It is with a properly designed FFP reticle. I've spent enough time with 3-9x scopes in SFP and FFP to know there are distinct advantages to FFP when using subtended reticles.

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Originally Posted by jeffbird
Originally Posted by MJSaustin
I'm leaning slightly towards the Nightforce 2.5-10x42 with IHR or MOAR reticle because it seems to check the most boxes. What's this about the reticle being too thin?

Do the VX-5HD and VX-6HD Leupolds have the same tracking issues as the VX3i? What about the Swaro Z5 3.5-18?

As a backup I may consider the SWFA series but they look really big, I should mention I've only owned one 30mm scope (an original VX-6 2-12 that I sent down the road).

Planning to order the rifle tomorrow morning...


I have both of those reticles and they are far easier to see than the SWFA SS MilQuad or MOAQuad reticles, which I also have.

(Sold the MilQuad as it was my least favorite of all of those.)

The IHR is a nice reticle if you like a plain duplex, but the MOAR provides more useful information.

The IHR reticle only has the center crosshair illuminate, which is nice in very low light.

The one nice feature of a SFP reticle is that turning it down to 2.5 makes it bold, which I use occasionally on pigs in heavy cover areas, and thinner on the higher magnification for more open longer shots.

Which version of the MQ and MOAQ? They're not all equivalent. Scope models?

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I've seen several Fieldcrafts with the rail mount - If I don't need the extra elevation because I'm not shooting past 600 yds is there any benefit to it over Talley lightweights?

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Originally Posted by MJSaustin
I've seen several Fieldcrafts with the rail mount - If I don't need the extra elevation because I'm not shooting past 600 yds is there any benefit to it over Talley lightweights?


Only in mounting position for proper ER. Probably won't have any problems with a short action unless your scope is really short with short ER. It's also a bit stronger than Talleys,though whether it's needed is debatable.

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March?

Yes sir a March 3-24x52.


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I'm really leaning towards the Nightforce NXS 2.5x10 w/ MOAR right now. One concern I have is the adjustable parallax - how often will I have to mess with it?

Or can I just set it and forget it like on most "Max 10X" scopes?

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Originally Posted by DV_Ramrod


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Update - Rifle order was just placed with a company out of Owensboro, KY (hint). This is my first time placing an online order for a rifle and dealing with an FFL so hopefully it goes smoothly.

Now I just need to decide on scope/mounts...

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

It is with a properly designed FFP reticle.


That's the problem, there are very few scopes out there with FFP reticles designed for the hunter or mid-range variables. The 3-9 MQ works well in the 6x-9x range but below that the center gets pretty thin. In the 3-9 and 2.5-10 range, I've not found subtensions to be "needed" on anything but max power, especially in a hunting scope, which is why I think SFP reticles work best overall in that magnification range. But, I am always willing to learn something new if there is something I am missing.

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March?

Yes sir a March 3-24x52.


You are getting serious...............


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Haha idk I traded into the scope with an offer I couldn’t refuse so I am gonna give it a whirl.

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Originally Posted by wareagle700
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith

It is with a properly designed FFP reticle.


That's the problem, there are very few scopes out there with FFP reticles designed for the hunter or mid-range variables. The 3-9 MQ works well in the 6x-9x range but below that the center gets pretty thin. In the 3-9 and 2.5-10 range, I've not found subtensions to be "needed" on anything but max power, especially in a hunting scope, which is why I think SFP reticles work best overall in that magnification range. But, I am always willing to learn something new if there is something I am missing.


A couple of points, one you've probably considered, the other maybe not:

- The ability to change the visual absolute thickness of the reticle can be quite handy. If placing the reticle on an unaware animal at dusk, it's sometimes nice to crank up to 9x and get that reticle really bold. Even on low power, the thick posts work really well for bracketing the vitals of a BG animal, which is usually all the precision that's needed on 3-4x

- Murphy's Law has a way of messing with hunters at inopportune times. Just because you may not feel that the subtensions are needed on anything but max power, that doesn't mean that you won't accidentally try and use them, thinking that the scope is set on max magnification, when in reality it's not. Seen it more than once, with lost deer and elk being the result. The most painful case was several years ago, when a friend was using a Zeiss RZ600 and cleanly missed an elk at 530 yards because he used the reticle for holdeover, thinking the scope was set at 9x (he basically never moved it from 9x), when it was actually set on 6x, which we noticed after the elk was safely long gone. A FFP reticle in the 3-9x range is very handy for eliminating one more potential source of problems in the heat of the moment

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