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I would go m92 in either .45 or .357, depending on how heavy I was needing to throw.

Honestly though, a rifle/carbine in .357 with full power 180 grains loads is right on the heels of a 30-30.

Actually it's not very close at all. About the best you're going to get out of a .357 with 158's is still 400- 500 fps shy of what you can get with a 150 or 160 out of a .30-30 and the .30 cal bullets have a considerable BC advantage so the gap only widens downrange. The story is pretty much the same with 180's out of the .357 vs. 170's out of a .30-30. I've had both, handloaded for both and taken considerable game with both. The .357 is a versatile little cartridge out of a carbine but it ain't no .30-30.

yea but..........

where the 357 is gonna be used..........

short range crab apple thickets on the east coast......

50 yards............one dead deer........or pig if you desire......

a 6 # Marlin would be the catt's azz...........

Yeah, that'll work but a Win. 94 .30-30 weighs the same and carries just as well but will reach out and clobber one 200+ yards across a field just as easily.

i have both of them. my 357mg load with 158gr xtp hp with lit gun powder shoots about 1 1/2 inc higher at 200 yards then a 150 gr speer hot core with varget powder in my 3030 when sighed in at 100yards. with both a round 2250/2275 fps with my guns. 3030 marlin made in the 50s to my marlin 357 made in 90s

How much lil gun you stuffing in there ? 18 grains {Hodgdon's current listed max.} clocked just under 1900 fps. with 158's out of my 1894c. Even if you do get the velocity stated it is simply not possible for the 158 XTP with a BC of .206 to shoot flatter than the 150 Speer with a BC of .255 when launched at the same velocity. There are also powders that will goose the velocity 150-200 fps higher than what you're getting out of your .30-30 with varget.

This is my thinking. Small predators to 100 yards. Deer and hogs to 50.

The 92 has the advantage in weight. But I don't mind a small receiver mounted scope at all. And the 1894c is basically a more powerful twin to my 39m.

This is true also. And in an AE model with a 1-4 scope I might actually find 200 yards useful on occasion.
The 357 still wins the fun factor as a plinker and occasional target shooter. And those 1894C's are too sweet.

yep......especially the older ones..........

my badd.........I believe the 'CS' is the 'Carbine safety'

black heart 18gr litgun in 357 32.5grvarget in 3030 .shot over a buds croney .both guns have the same scope 1/5 to 4/5 bushnell . shot at a 8inc steel plate.we were kind of suprised it happend. we both shot them a lot. was suprised that the 357 shot that flat at 200yards i like the varget load in my 30/30 it is the most constent. shot in fla at just about sea level with 90*temps

I like my Marlin 35 Remington. A powerful deer killer that can be a 38 spcl 357 mag and 357 rem max. But then again my 444 marlin can act similarly!




BTW 444 marlin analysis here

https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com/2018/02/03/the-magnificent-444-marlin/

Kinda like my 1964 36g in .30-30
Now I find myself having marlinitis
Wanna get a .35 or .444 half tube presafety to be its big brother

If you will reload, I'd consider a 35 Rem. I've got 3 Marlin 336 in 30-30, 35 and 356 and also a Browning BLR in 308. For a short range hog, deer and plinker the 35 would be a pretty good choice. Can load it down to 357 mag or load it up to the 220 Speer and shoot nearly anything if you keep the ranges close enough.

I meant C's as in plural. I don't need no stinking safety. But I'd take one if the price was right.

And yes Tikkanut, your old Marlin looks just right. I like Fireball2's also, with the little 2.5x20 scope.

renegade50's 36g looks sweet too. I've thought about a Glenfield 30A, so I wouldn't feel bad about putting a plastic stock on it to lighten it up, or 30TK as is. But those half tube rifles aren't so common around here.

The 444 is a great cartridge, as is the 35. But if I'm getting away from what I know and have ammo for, 30-30 and 357, then it would be a 45. Or a 45-70 if I want an artillery round.

Also, if I reload a 30-30 then I can reload 223 with the same powder.

'CS' is I'm sure post '83......'C' prior

thats when they put the silly azz X/bolt safety on

That is a well rounded lever arsenal.

Love my lever guns. I've had them in 22, 357mag, 44 Mag, 45 Colt, 30-30, 35 Remington, and 45-70.

WIsh I Hadn't sold the 45 Colt, have multiples of a couple. But I wouldn't miss an opportunity on a B-92 in 357 mag or 44 mag. Nice rifles as well.

One area a 45 lc will give the 30-30 a run is if you want really deep penetration on flesh and bone. If you reload, you can launch some really heavy cast bullets (approx. 345-350) grains out of a Model 92 at some hearty velocities. 30-30 your pretty much maxed out at 200 grains. For short range thump I would take a heavy loaded 45 LC, Model 92 over anything a 30-30 can push. .

You can't go wrong with any of your (3) choices.