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For a 1:9 twist 6.5x284 for lower 48. Thanks

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I am a little partial as to the fact that I just recently purchased both, and I don't know how far you plan to shoot, but I recently purchased a NF SHV 3-10X42 for a 280 AI and a Weaver Tactical 3-15x50 for a CTR 6.5 creedmoor. The key that sold me on both of these for my purpose in order of importance was - 1. Reliable tracking and return to zero 2. Robustness and quality of Construction, 3. optics.

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For both up close and long range, the SWFA 3 x 9 SS with mil quad reticle is the most bang for your buck.



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SWFA or Nightforce,depending on budget.

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I just bought a Sendero in 264 Win Mag. I’m driving myself nuts with picking out a scope. I bought this rifle to hunt bean fields and take out west for Muleys. Also to shoot steel.
I was locked in on a Huskemaw. Then read if you compare a Huskemaw vs Nightforce for the same money go with NF. Then I read the VX6 is best in low light. I want a good scope with a dial to dial in the range.
To the OP I’m in the same boat as you.

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The simplicity of a fixed power scope has always interested me and I finally bought a couple of SWFA SS scopes in the last year or so. I installed a 6x on my longer range 7mm-08 and I have the SS 10x on my 300 Win Mag. Once you settle on your load and run the ballistics, and create your dialing data sheet, (I think they call it a dope sheet), the fun begins. I couldn't be happier with these scopes. Money well spent.


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Originally Posted by RMerta
I just bought a Sendero in 264 Win Mag. I’m driving myself nuts with picking out a scope. I bought this rifle to hunt bean fields and take out west for Muleys. Also to shoot steel.
I was locked in on a Huskemaw. Then read if you compare a Huskemaw vs Nightforce for the same money go with NF. Then I read the VX6 is best in low light. I want a good scope with a dial to dial in the range.
To the OP I’m in the same boat as you.


Nightforce is clearly the winner for accurate dialing of those. Huskemaw is a pimped product from a show built around advertising. Leupold adjustments have never been considered accurate or precise in tracking by anyone who dials a lot.

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Thanks I’ve pretty much convinced myself to buy the NF SHV 5-20x56. I don’t want any woulda’s, coulda’s or shoulda’s.

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Bushnell LRTSi has become my almost universal recommendation. Fantastic scope that performs way above its pay grade.

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Whoa. Hold the boat. We haven't gotten inputs in terms of target sizes or distances from Dogger or RMerta.

Frame the question(s) better to get good feedback. Distances? Target size?

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For me target shooting out to 8-900 yards. Metal size to replicate vitals of whitetail. Hunting range out to maybe 600 depending on wind and weather. Maybe further in right situation.

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My recommendation would still be the Bushnell LRTSi, or, if you can find one, the LRHS.

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I have a Huskema that i purchased when Aaron was there it tracks awesome, I have taken 4 bucks and 3 bulls from 250-890 with it and not once has it failed me. Don't assume just because its a NF that its gonna track good go to accurateshooter.com and read the thread on scope testing you will see what some well respected BR shooters are testing scopes and finding out what scopes track good and the ones that don't I think you will be surprised.

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When you throw “600 yard hunting” in there... it changes my answer a little.

We shoot a lot out to the ranges you mentioned... 700-900... but most of our shooting and “practice” is inside 600. Almost all the rifles we shoot wear 3-9s, all Leupolds and SWFAs. I feel 3-9s are in no way handicapped when we’re talking 1.5-3 MOA targets, hell, a lot of dudes here make those kinda hits with 6x’s.

Our 12” round gong at 600 yards is known as the “Plate of Humble Pie”, that’s right at 2 MOA size, and it really is bigger than a deer’s “vital area”. It can be awefully easy to miss.... but that’s not a magnification issue. 9x/10x top end is more than enough, to make good holds on those size targets, in hunting situations out past 600. Plus, the field of view is still adequate enough to allow you to see impacts and spot your own shots. I killed a deer this year at 550+, using an SS 3-9.... it was no issue at all... and I got to watch that deer pile-up in the glass... shooting an 8lb 7 Mag.

Seems like the whole “I wanna shoot to 1k, and hunt to 600” mantra is pretty common these days. For that... I really see only a couple options in optics.

SWFA: Fixed 6x or 10x, whichever terrain allows. OR... 3-9 HD, which is my personal favorite scope.
Bushy: 3-12 LRHS..... or new LRHSi
NF: 3-10 or 4-14 SHV.... or drop the dough and go 3-15 NXS.

I’ve owned and shot all the above, suffice the SHVs, and my vote goes to the the 3-9 SWFA. If I felt I needed more X’s, I’d go LRHS.


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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
When you throw “600 yard hunting” in there... it changes my answer a little.

We shoot a lot out to the ranges you mentioned... 700-900... but most of our shooting and “practice” is inside 600. Almost all the rifles we shoot wear 3-9s, all Leupolds and SWFAs. I feel 3-9s are in no way handicapped when we’re talking 1.5-3 MOA targets, hell, a lot of dudes here make those kinda hits with 6x’s.

Our 12” round gong at 600 yards is known as the “Plate of Humble Pie”, that’s right at 2 MOA size, and it really is bigger than a deer’s “vital area”. It can be awefully easy to miss.... but that’s not a magnification issue. 9x/10x top end is more than enough, to make good holds on those size targets, in hunting situations out past 600. Plus, the field of view is still adequate enough to allow you to see impacts and spot your own shots. I killed a deer this year at 550+, using an SS 3-9.... it was no issue at all... and I got to watch that deer pile-up in the glass... shooting an 8lb 7 Mag.

Seems like the whole “I wanna shoot to 1k, and hunt to 600” mantra is pretty common these days. For that... I really see only a couple options in optics.

SWFA: Fixed 6x or 10x, whichever terrain allows. OR... 3-9 HD, which is my personal favorite scope.
Bushy: 3-12 LRHS..... or new LRHSi
NF: 3-10 or 4-14 SHV.... or drop the dough and go 3-15 NXS.

I’ve owned and shot all the above, suffice the SHVs, and my vote goes to the the 3-9 SWFA. If I felt I needed more X’s, I’d go LRHS.



I have a caldwell 10" Steel Gong setup that I bought a couple years ago to shoot long at. You tell yourself that 10" shouldnt be no issue at all, but to date, once you get that thing out past 450-500 yards - even with very little wind - as dog shooter says - it can be very humbling.

With that being said, on other rifles I have owned as well as friends rifles, that were taken out long range - I personally seem to do better with a little more magnification - not a lot but something in the 12x-15x has treated me well. I respect those that can bang steel out there consistently wth a 6x or 3-9x.

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Did you read up on the thread on accurateshooter.com i mentioned? If so what do you think?

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Originally Posted by Hiaring8



I have a caldwell 10" Steel Gong setup that I bought a couple years ago to shoot long at. You tell yourself that 10" shouldnt be no issue at all, but to date, once you get that thing out past 450-500 yards - even with very little wind - as dog shooter says - it can be very humbling.
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It certainly can be but when you find that consistent load for a consistent rifle with a consistent scope, it can be an awful lot of fun. Last trip out:

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I think Dogshooter is spot-on with the ~1x magnification per 100 yards recommendation, assuming ~1.5 MOA target, out to RMerta's primary distance of 600. The same 1x/100y still does ok out to his limit of 800 - 900, but for some shooters a little more magnification might help. I can tell you that I've seen even novice shooters do well on 12" steel at 1000+ using 10x MQ scopes. Under decent wind conditions grin

And less magnification, instead of more, is often overlooked and a good point by Dog. Spotting shots at medium range can sometimes be tricky from field positions, especially with lighter weight rifles.

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