I really appreciate the input on values.
I had to come up with a valuation... as did my close friend. Tough stuff with friends for sure.
My VERY GOOD FRIEND told me to “…figure out the value of the truck and to take off a couple of thousand” (to save the trouble of dealing with a gazillion low-balling landscapers in Northern Virginia).
I have owned about 25 Cummins in my life... 4BTs to Commonrail...
He trusts my opinion 100%.
If the seller was a stranger from C/L and the maintenance was unknown... and I expected crap to break... I would give $4,000 to $5,500 for a basic rusty dump with a Cummins 12v… and $1k less for a 24v.
Up to $8k for a 3 ton 2wd Cummins dump (with EVERYTHING working at the time of the purchase... truck had no/low smoke on a cold start... spooled up well... ran good... some receipts etc.)...
I told my VERY GOOD FRIEND that I thought his truck (PERFECTLY MAINTAINED) was worth between $10k and 15k... I have seen the truck for years and just assumed 4wd… it is not... realizing this... subtract $2k.
$13k would be a very far reach, but to the perfect buyer in need of this exact set-up it might be achievable in 4-6 months.
$10k would be achievable in a month or so.
I offered $8k.
His opinion was $11k-$12k... maybe...
I offered my semi-custom AR-10 in .338 Federal + 1k rounds of my Match grade ammo… been talking about getting him one of my custom guns for several years now… He is pleased in the gun/ammo/$8k/exchange. As am I.
Here and elsewhere… I had folks estimate from $3,000 to $14k on value (the $13k-$14k estimates were “If I was selling, I would ask”).
Closest Comps anyone sent were:
https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/28686967https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/32905546https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/35798164 https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/36627443https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/17850721I did NOT find a single usable Dodge 3500 1999+/- dump (not FUBAR) comp... not one.
Ford 7.3s are good engines to about 300k (average), but they are thirsty compared to a 5.9 Cummins. I know someone is going to tell me 500k, but I said AVERAGE.
LB7s are drama queens (without a FASS or AirDog) systems. 2001-early 2004. With FASS or AirDog systems they are still drama princesses... with 250k life as typical.
Dodge 47RH-RE trans are notoriously weak, but if overbuilt (when rebuilt at 150k “typically”)… with a larger pan and a temperature gauge... DO HOLD UP WELL FROM THERE ON OUT. Extra battery grounding is highly encouraged.
This truck came with a temp gauge and oversized pan). Temp is the #1 killer of ATs IMHO. The NV4500 is ALWAYS a better tranny option unless your employees/spouse STINK at using a clutch.
So folks remarked about silly upgrades… thanks for the comments, but I am not sure what upgrades would be considered silly on a Cummins.
Oversized injectors are very helpful on power as well as fuel economy (truck also came with OEM injectors in a spare parts box).
Oversized turbo is the same thing… no downside there that I see. OEM turbo also came as spare parts. The turbo also has a temp gauge and boost gauge to provide warnings. No downside there.
Air filter is also after market… 14” diameter and 15” long (HUGE)... plenty of air and long lasting.
The weak link on any 24 valves is the VP44 pump, but with a FASS or AirDog system… double filters (30 and 5) plus 20-40 PSI static pressure (another gauge) there is plenty of warning on pre-failure of the VP44… these pumps fail when supplied fuel is starved and they overheat and cook the circuitry in the pump.
On-board air compressor make 120 PSI to keep the airbag in the rear perfect at 3 tons… or 0 PSI empty... as well as tires etc.
Hydraulics is 12v electric pump driven. Ram to the dump came from an old grain wagon and IMHO is probably 6+ ton capable. Dump and hydraulics are super strong. Bed is custom made and VERY LIGHT by comparison to most… I am happy about this... about 1,000 of extra carry capacity.
2WD was a bummer until I drove her. Smooth as a Cadillac... I have only owned two or three 2WD Dodges and had forgotten.
Steering is all new (no death wobble DEATH stuff)... Rear is PosiTraction.
I will probably install a Reese receiver on the front with QD power... movable winch front to rear as need be... I have done this before.
My friend says about 16 mpg around town and 21-22 on the highway. I had a 12 valve manual 4WD once that got 26, but that was years ago… gears were not good for towing. Fuel was very different years ago... much better filtration... much less silica.
Goose neck ball in frame accessible thru a trap door on the dump bed.
Premium HD Michelins x 6.
New brakes, cables, pads, shoes, drums, rotors etc.
AC/heat work great (no leaks)... remote start ACTUALLY WORKS (never had one that worked before).
Leather seats… driver’s seat is 272k miles worn accordingly.
Frame is ROCK SOLID (zero rust)... tiny bit of body rust here and there.
Upgraded lights all around... VERY NICE!!!
We just bought 300 acres of mountain land in WV... I plan to use this truck constantly to haul BEAUTIFUL BUILDING STONE to market and contractors I know. She will live on the highway 99% of the time.
THANKS AGAIN TO ALL THAT OFFERED OPINIONS...and let me know if you need stone or dirt hauled in Virginia... for a nominal fee. LOL!!!