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RickD, This is not an attack....merely my understanding of the 2nd. Amendment. If you read and comprehend the intent of 2nd. Amendment as written by the “Founding Fathers”..... there would be “no” firearms laws. The 2nd Amendment was designed to save us from the powers of our own government. Meaning, that though it may sound extreme.....we should be allowed the same weaponry as the government! Though “not” financially possible....by the intent of the 2nd. Amendment, I should be able to own a full battle-ready F-16. How else could we militarily defend against a tyrannical government! memtb
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WH Press Secretary and private sources are saying that Trump is open to raising the age for buying firearms such as semiauto rifles from 18 to 21.
Hmm. So many vets after doing a tour will be welcomed back to their homeland by being told they are too immature to own a handgun or semiauto rifle.
Not Winning. It would not be hard to create a carve out for vets. Trump would also likely support that, as would I and many others. Did you really just say you were cool with vets having rights others don't? Sure. When it comes to just any 18 year old with no service experience owning AR's vs someone serving who has been trained with an AR owning one, I would be fine with the kid in the military being able to buy one before a kid under 21 could. So the semi auto 30.06 Remington I hunted deer with as a teen would have been verboten in your opinion? Or maybe the semi auto browning 12ga shotgun I hunted birds with? Do you even own guns? have you ever owned guns? Because you sure postulate your thoughts as though your haven’t.
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DONT GIVE AN INCH. Simple as that. If you’re willing to give that inch, then you are the problem.
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When part A brings nothing to the table why would party B negotiate.
What exactly are they offering?
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Vets EARN rights others don't. And don't you ever forget it. I'll probably be in the minority, but I'd have to disagree with that.
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I doubt this will go anywhere but raising the age to purchase is not a good idea. Maybe if we also raised the voting age to 21 it would be worth it. At any rate I think it is mostly political posturing so that Trump can say he is doing something.
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I wonder what the reaction of some of you would be if Obama had done this after the Sandy Hook shooting.
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Vets EARN rights others don't. And don't you ever forget it. Vets PROTECT the rights for all citizens, through sacrifice and sweat. Not because they want to be elevated above their brothers and sisters who don't serve. And don't you forget it. Fah-Q
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When part A brings nothing to the table why would party B negotiate.
What exactly are they offering? The left offers nothing, that's not the business they are in. The left is only in the business of impressing the evil of guns, religion, etc on young minds soon to be voters.
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Every kid running from that school had a gizmo in his/her hand.
The device used to feed propaganda, fire-hose style, 24/7 into their minds.
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RickD, This is not an attack....merely my understanding of the 2nd. Amendment. If you read and comprehend the intent of 2nd. Amendment as written by the “Founding Fathers”..... there would be “no” firearms laws. The 2nd Amendment was designed to save us from the powers of our own government. Meaning, that though it may sound extreme.....we should be allowed the same weaponry as the government! Though “not” financially possible....by the intent of the 2nd. Amendment, I should be able to own a full battle-ready F-16. How else could we militarily defend against a tyrannical government! memtb Absolutely. This is made crystal clear in the Federalist Papers. The idea was that no standing Federal army should be able to stand up to the citizenry armed in like manner to themselves.
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DONT GIVE AN INCH. Simple as that. If you’re willing to give that inch, then you are the problem. I agree 100%.
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The whole issue over AR's just shows how little the media and public knows. A Ruger Mini-14 or Remington 7400 is just as dangerous and can be rapidly reloaded. BTW, just look at Jerry Miculek and his rapid shooting of revolvers.
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since we are talking about access to instruments of death.... Would someone please propose to equal the minimum age of buying a firearm to be no higher than the minimum age to procure an abortion?
Just so I can see the liberal heads explode?
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So, they have their parents buy the guns or they steal them (like the CT one)
That won't do crap Its going to make someone feel good.
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WH Press Secretary and private sources are saying that Trump is open to raising the age for buying firearms such as semiauto rifles from 18 to 21.
Hmm. So many vets after doing a tour will be welcomed back to their homeland by being told they are too immature to own a handgun or semiauto rifle.
Not Winning. It would not be hard to create a carve out for vets. Trump would also likely support that, as would I and many others. That's all right then. As long as we can carve something out for the King's representatives and still deny it to the common folk, that's a perfect answer. Only those that are willing to give up something for everybody else, but not themselves, would be happy with that deal...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Shame its got to be someone's own child, spouse, or relative killed before coming to ones senses!
Phil Help me here Phil... Just exactly HOW would such a proposal cure the mental health problem? This is not a gun issue, it is about kids willing to kill others.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Vets EARN rights others don't. And don't you ever forget it. Vets PROTECT the rights for all citizens, through sacrifice and sweat. Not because they want to be elevated above their brothers and sisters who don't serve. And don't you forget it. Fah-Q I am befuddled as to what angers you so...
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Shame its got to be someone's own child, spouse, or relative killed before coming to ones senses!
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Everyone that thinks veterans have superior rights to American citizen's rights, raise your hands.
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