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I seem to have lost your question in all the BS. Please restate it and I will do my best for you.

The Seminole Indians pay all "natives" like $1000.00 per week from the casino money.

If you do not like that--- don't patronize the casinos---

The state make millions per year, they are ok with it.

Not all are screaming successes. We had one locally for about 4 years. I have no idea how it survived that long in an isolated town of about 5K. Not even an interstate within 130 miles and the closest adjacent towns are about the same distance. . No sign of a benefit to the tribe or local economy. It closed with rumors of expanding in the coming months but never reopened. I believe they contracted the entire operation out, as near every responsible position was staffed by a WASP.

In the 1960’s walleye fishing was fantastic on Mille Lacs lake—wasn’t many Indians fishing back then—them poor suckers lived in literal tar paper snacks over on that slough on the southwest side. But them damn charter Launch boats wrecked it for everybody—they took so many fish by the early 1970’s we were calling Mille Lacs “The Dead Sea”.

Mille Lacs has always been up and down like a yo-yo on population.

The first thing the band did with Casino money was provide healthcare for band members. In 1990 only about 1000 members were living on reservation with about 5000 members living in Minneapolis. The second thing they did was hire a group of lawyers to sue for their treaty rights to be honoured. Now an awful lot of people have been able to return home because of Casino money.

It seems to me that if you catch a fish and keep it that fish can’t reproduce and it don’t matter much how you catch it, hook and line,nets or spear or poison or dynamite.

The Indians and the state biologists agree on a limit every year—so far I don’t believe the Indians have ever exceeded their quota.

I don't gamble and couldn't care less about Indians.

NYH1.

I worked for Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, CT from July 2003 to Jan 2006 in the capacity of Purchasing Manager and Contract Manager; my area of responsibility was Food & Beverage and In that capacity my team of buyers had a spend of about $125 million per year.
The casino was an excellent employer, good salary, excellent benefits, very good bonus structure and I had a great boss.

Mohegan Sun and our competition Foxwoods that was across the river put a great deal of money into the local economy. While I don't recall dollar amounts, the tribe donated large sums of money to local charities/organizations, provided healthcare to tribal members, lots of scholarships for kids to go on to college and yes, there were the tribal payouts to members of the tribe.
In my area we employed several tribal members on the docks and in the warehouse but my team was either casino or food and beverage industry professionals.

As I'm not a gambler (actual we couldn't gamble at Mohegan Sun as a condition of employment, we went to Foxwoods a couple of times and that was it), we took in a Jimmy Buffet concert once and took advantage of some of the restaurants a few times.

I can tell you that Mohegan Sun generated some positive cash flow, there were weekends were they made 1.5 million in profit after taxes.They do not build those big beautiful hotels, restaurants, gaming areas and arenas and lose money.

But like anything else, you can choose to go in and partake or do something else with your time and money.

Live and let live.

StarchedCover

A good buddie of mine was half Sioux Indian, and every Dec. he would get a check from the tribe in Min. for $2500.00 hes never even been there, so did the rest of his Family but for his mother she was white! It was from the Casinos

If the Indians can have casinos the cowboys should be allowed casinos as well.

Worth quoting...

makes for sporty driving on the two tracks at night on the Pine ridge

Injun smokeshops/casinos: let's the Injuns scalp the White Man one more time.......

Congress passed legislation ...

[quote=bobmn]Congress passed legislation ...[/quote

I'm sorry, I do not understand. Is that your question I hadn't answered?

"According to the terms of the compact between the state and the tribes, however, the minimum and maximum payouts are regulated as follows: video poker and video blackjack - 83% to 98%, slot machines - 80% to 95%, keno - 75% to 95%. Each tribe is free to set its machines to pay back anywhere within those limits and the tribes do not not release any information regarding their slot machine percentage paybacks."
I am not a gambler. How do these numbers compare to Vegas?

Miles let me restate the question. If a female walleye is taken prior to spawning and a female walleye is taken after spawning which has a greater impact on the overall walleye population? Is there any peer reviewed studies? The second part of the question: If there is a difference is this reflected in the yearly quota for those allowed to take walleyes prior to the opening of the walleye season? Please note kkahmann that there is no mention of method of taking in my question. My questions are only related to the timing of the reduction to possession.

It's two and a half times that for the Seminole's.....

Many tribes do rather well, some rob themselves to death....
Walleyed fishing don't have fck to do with it.




I know few Seminoles, the money is a problem with the kids. It's hard for them to keep the kids ambitious and motivated knowing they will never really have to work....
They all live pretty well, a lot of kids stay home after turning 18. A family of two parents and two over 18 kids = a half million dollar a year household income. Medical is paid by the tribe, college along with many other spiff's.

The Miccosukee Tribe, a sorta spin off of the Seminole tribe, both located in South Florida. They do a bit better on the monthly income than the Seminoles and have as many spiff's as well...

I didn't know there was a range I thought it was a solid number? The numbers I have heard before all were at the high end of your ranges.

as far as the netting and spearing of walleye and pike by the Indians it is used as a Fuxx you ploy rather than a need

Simple answer. In the case of Mille Lacs now, the data shows that the problem of low population is not related to the success rate of reproduction. The fry are produced in sufficient number that there should not be problems with the population. The fry are not surviving. Adding more fry is not the solution. The solution lies in returning to the successful growth of the fry that we had in the past.

The answer to your question is that if there is any difference between a pre and post spawn kill of a female walleye to the population it is not significant to the population. A post spawn kill in this case produces no more offspring surviving to their second year. If in fact predator species are responsible for the decline, the improved nutrition of the predator species can be expected to improve their reproductive success and may thereby decrease the walleye population even further. The question that must be answered is not related to the production of fry, but to the survival of fry. As I understand it, in particular the survival of second year fry.

Both will scalp you.