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This from the Simon Black newsletter I received yesterday:

If you’ve been following much international news, you’ve probably heard that, after literally years of scandal, abuse, and incompetence, South Africa’s president Jacob Zuma was finally forced to resign last week.

This is a big deal for South Africa.

The country has been suffering for nearly a decade under Zuma’s corruption.

And people are certainly hoping that the new President, Cyril Ramaphosa, will represent a positive, new chapter for South Africa.

Yesterday Ramaphosa addressed the nation’s parliament in Cape Town and made clear that his priority is to heal the divisions and injustice of the past, going all the way back to the original European colonists in the 1600s taking land from the indigenous tribes.

Ramaphosa called this “original sin”, and stated that he wants to see “the return of the land to the people from whom it was taken… to heal the divisions of the past.”

How does he plan on doing that?

Confiscation. Specifically-- confiscation without compensation.

“The expropriation of land without compensation is envisaged as one of the measures that we will use to accelerate redistribution of land to black South Africans.”

Ramaphosa minced no words: he’s talking about taking land from white farmers and giving it to black South Africans.

Astonishingly, he followed up that statement by saying, “We will handle it in a way that is not going to damage our economy. . .”

Wow, what a relief. For a minute it sounded like South Africa wants to do what Zimbabwe did several years ago.

Oh wait a minute.

That’s exactly what Zimbabwe did.


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Sounds like it is a hell of a mess over there right now.


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It is a damn mess over there ! Whites got the country and economy in good shape for while ,,now the uneducated blacks are in the process of totally destroying economy and tourism as they revert back to old tribal ways.."South Africa Today: shows the amount of farm murders and immigrants from other areas of Africa are calling for genocide of the whites..I cancelled a trip this year 'cause I refuse to go through Joberg again and fight off the trash blocking bathrooms for tips..Namibia is not near as bad but you still need to be aware and going through Frankfort is more expensive..Trump was right about these s*h* countries..Namibia is far safer and less expensive for sure..

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Maybe CR means exactly whar he's saying. Maybe he's shouting empty rhetoric to calm and block criticism from the more radical factions in the ANC and in fact will take little action in that direction. Hard to say. I spent a good deal of time talking about CR with South Africans at SCI just a few weeks ago. None of them seem too concerned. /none of them are sending their kids out of the country or looking to immigrate. The think it is likely that the the ANC and DA may make a loose alliance, in which case no Zimbabwe like action will result.

Could they give away some unused easements? Sure. Government lands? Sure. Foreclosures? Maybe. I think that is all likely but I do think that CR has been in the private sector long enough to realize that RSA is doomed without ahappy and successful white population. Could that change? It is Africa. The fact that the ANC finally threw out Zuma gives me hope. I know one buddy who works up in Limpopo who is not optimistic. My varies buddies in FS, EC, WC are not nervous.

Maybe Marius can help us here. Boots on the ground.


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Originally Posted by hatari
Maybe CR means exactly whar he's saying. Maybe he's shouting empty rhetoric to calm and block criticism from the more radical factions in the ANC and in fact will take little action in that direction. Hard to say. I spent a good deal of time talking about CR with South Africans at SCI just a few weeks ago. None of them seem too concerned. /none of them are sending their kids out of the country or looking to immigrate. The think it is likely that the the ANC and DA may make a loose alliance, in which case no Zimbabwe like action will result.

Could they give away some unused easements? Sure. Government lands? Sure. Foreclosures? Maybe. I think that is all likely but I do think that CR has been in the private sector long enough to realize that RSA is doomed without ahappy and successful white population. Could that change? It is Africa. The fact that the ANC finally threw out Zuma gives me hope. I know one buddy who works up in Limpopo who is not optimistic. My varies buddies in FS, EC, WC are not nervous.

Maybe Marius can help us here. Boots on the ground.


I am thinking of cancelling my marketing trip to the USA for next week. The news over here is reporting that it's a free for all to obtain weapons over there, with little to no screening, with school shootings being a common occurrence. Sounds like its a mess over there.

Enough said?


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The news over here is reporting that it's a free for all to obtain weapons over there, with little to no screening, with school shootings being a common occurrence. Sounds like its a mess over there.

Enough said?





Sounds like you have fake news over there as well. Nothing could be further from the truth


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The news over here is reporting that it's a free for all to obtain weapons over there, with little to no screening, with school shootings being a common occurrence. Sounds like its a mess over there.

Enough said?





Sounds like you have fake news over there as well. Nothing could be further from the truth



That was exactly my point Jorge.


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Marius - thanks for the update.


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Saw something the other day about Zimbabwe leasing the land they "redistributed" back to the white farmers, for some reason or other.


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Not concerned about CR. He ownes a couple of game ranches and breed game. He has several white partners in his wild life ventures.
At the moment there is a very very positive vibe in the country. Still, he is the former enemy so we remain vigilant


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Coming over in August with me missus. No qualms here, Marius. (Still, I wouldn't want to hunt out of Detroit.)

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Coming over in August with me missus. No qualms here, Marius. (Still, I wouldn't want to hunt out of Detroit.)


Great. You guys will have a wonderful time! Just stay vigilant, and don't do anything here or venture into areas that you would not do or go to in the US.


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I remember well at DSC in 2013, a reputable safari booking agent that I had used told me, “ better get your African hunting done in the next five or so years, cause Muslims and politics will put an end to it.”


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I'm sure some of it's exaggerated, but I have a co-worker that got hired about a year and a half ago that's from South Africa. He says it's a cluster and he's not going back, he's trying to bring his mother and sister over now. Maybe it's not a wholesale "I've gotta leave NOW" situation, but some folks like Hendri are taking the opportunity to leave if they have it. I talked with him a bit about it and his take on it is that there's no future there, things aren't going to get any better.

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There has been a great difference in the way the north or Limpopo province is handled and the other provinces. It’s no surprise to me that Limpopo is more paranoid. The bad things that happen usually originate in Limpopo

Much like the horrific policies in America usually originate in California.


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When I worked in Australia in 1990, my boss was from South Africa. He said it wasn't safe at that time in South Africa. Everyone, mothers taking their kids to school, parents going to PTA, etc. all carried handguns. I can't imagine what it is like now.


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If they can run the whites out of SA, would it be racist of us to run the blacks out of here? Maybe we could propose a trade.


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Name the "nations" in sub-Saharan Africa that are currently, or have been, able to function successfully under black/native leadership.

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Name the "nations" in sub-Saharan Africa that are currently, or have been, able to function successfully under black/native leadership..


Botswana? Namibie?


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Originally Posted by KMGHuntingSafaris
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I am thinking of cancelling my marketing trip to the USA for next week. The news over here is reporting that it's a free for all to obtain weapons over there, with little to no screening, with school shootings being a common occurrence. Sounds like its a mess over there.

Enough said?






Well, that is all true. I can walk into any hardware or sporting goods store and buy anything I wish, short of a machine gun, and carry it out right now.

And it is becoming a mess with radical liberals attempting to circumvent that God Given Right.

What is your point?


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