Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire In any negotiation...

You come to the table asking for way more than you know you can get.
But, you act like what your asking for is 100% reasonable and that you absolutely expect it .
The other party, one expects, is going to do likewise.
So they was another AWB and an increase in age limit?
If we come to the table saying no and we meet in the middle ...we lose something.
Any move left of center is a loss.
So we need to come to the table with declassified suppressors, National CCWand armed teaches along with NO MORE GUN FREE ZONES.

Then it's a negotiation.

democrats idea of compromise is: Give us what we want and,
We will discuss what you want.

there are some liberals out there who are very arrogant. they believe they are better than you (and me). they know more, understand the world better, and are more civilized.

that leaves some of us as second class citizens in the eyes of the liberals. and they vote.

i've heard that placing swords underneath thatch roofing might cause them to rust?

No negotiation.

Ever.

It doesn't work.

If there is any question about who is in the right, then look at the wording of the 2nd again. That's all the legal ground we need.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Chip, Chip, Chip.

Negotiation Richard Milhouse Nixon style: "When you got'em by the ballzz their hearts and minds will follow".

negotiation = compromise =loss of rights=subjugation
just ask my ancestors
never works out well

You can't negotiate with dishonorable fanatics.

Ringworm you are absolutely correct. Never give up anything without getting more in return than you give up.

I refuse to "negotiate" my rights which have been afforded to me by the founders of this great Republic.

Gun control is really PEOPLE CONTROL.

AN UNARMED PERSON IS A PEASANT.

AN ARMED PERSON IS A CITIZEN.

How come the democrats didn't want to negotiate when Kathryn Steinle was shot by an illegal mesican?

No negotiations. We need to go after the current infringements. Do away with the GCA. Do away with gun free zones.

Conservatives need to start negotiating or we will continue to give up our constitutional rights without getting anything in return. This applies to not only gun control activists but all the other activists who would like to infringe upon the constitution. Effective negotiations are the only way to reverse some of these things. By negotiating effectively we can not only stop activists from taking more of our constitutional rights, but we can regain those rights that have been taken. Never give 've up anything without getting more in return. We need to make it very costly for liberals to advance their agenda.

This is why "negotiating Constitutional rights" doesn't work.

In business:

Your "Anchor": The crazy first number you throw out that you know you have zero chance of landing, but hope to set the tone with.
Your "Target": What you hope to achieve once you negotiate down from your anchor.
Your "Floor": The absolute minimum you are willing to take, before you walk away from the deal.

The problem is, our "anchor" in this proposed "negotiation" isn't a crazy flier we expect or want to back down from - it's the current status quo, which has ALREADY been eroded from our REAL 2nd Amendment rights.

They are eating the gun control elephant one bite at a time. We HAVE to stand firm.

So, 18 years olds aren't mature enough to own an AR-15, but by god , we can put fully automatic M4 into the hands of an 18-year old and that's okey-dokey.

Amen!

Brilliant!

I vote we start by agreeing to turning in our semi-automatic rifles to be ALLOWED to continue to use lead fishing weights (reference other 24HCF thread).

Can you point to a couple of examples where liberals politely gave back some of our rights due to negotiations?

For [bleep] sake. We're talking about a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, not some pork in a bridge building bill.

Exactly.

So we come to the table with...
Bump stocks
21 year requirement for mag fed semi automatics
HIPPA varience with regards to instacheck


What we want
Declassified suppressors
National CCW
1 year full auto amensty
Firearms sold to public through CAMP

Is that sort of like, you have to pass the bill in order to see what's in it?

As frustrated as the liberal left is that they haven't been able to get any "meaningful" gun control passed during the past decade, I am getting frustrated that every single time there is some sort of crisis involving a firearm, we have to go through this bulls#$t.

It's the same song and dance each time. Someone shoots up a bunch of people somewhere. Que the NRA haters. Que the media. Que the bleeding heart, liberal politicians, and now, even many of the Republicans, demanding something be done. "If we can save just one life..." Well I'm tired of it. Sick and fugging tired of hearing it.

We keep hearing the same arguments from both sides, which we all know by heart. Frankly, there isn't an argument. Period. Though inevitably, some "compromise" will be reached, and yet another chip will be removed from what was once supposed to be our Second Amendment. The point being, we shouldn't need anything in return. There it is, in black in white, written by the very founders of this FREE nation, "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We all know it by heart. We all say it. We all know the fundamental reasons behind it. But again, we will allow them to chip away at it once more. Sure, we will be enraged for a short while before finally accepting yet another minuscule defeat. Once again, we will draw yet another line in the sand, that we swear we wont cross.

Then another shooting... and the cycle will continue.

Death by a thousand cuts.