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In his "listening session". THERE IS NO PLACE TO PUT NUTS. Why is this an elephant in the room?
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Because it means dealing with the problem correctly is not a fiscally viable option. Unless you're willing to pay more taxes to fund it, we have to move to plan B which may be less ... palatable.
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Here be dragons ...
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In his "listening session". THERE IS NO PLACE TO PUT NUTS. Why is this an elephant in the room? Because it does away with their gun grabbing agenda and puts the focus where it should be. Like putting an Alkaseltzer in a car battery.
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we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone.
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we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone. BS. They took funding away from mental health facilities in lieu of combating the problem with drugs. Only drugs didn't, and don't work. So now we need facilities that aren't there, and the funding isn't there because it's all going to entitlements that keep politicians in office term after term.
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we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone. BS. They took funding away from mental health facilities in lieu of combating the problem with drugs. Only drugs didn't, and don't work. So now we need facilities that aren't there, and the funding isn't there because it's all going to entitlements that keep politicians in office term after term. Nailed it
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we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone. BS. They took funding away from mental health facilities in lieu of combating the problem with drugs. Only drugs didn't, and don't work. So now we need facilities that aren't there, and the funding isn't there because it's all going to entitlements that keep politicians in office term after term. Nailed it well, yeah to all of that. but, here we are. right here, right now.
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well, yeah to all of that. but, here we are. right here, right now. That's why it's the elephant in the room.
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Feds could legalize pot and use the tax $ to fund nut houses.
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we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone. BS. They took funding away from mental health facilities in lieu of combating the problem with drugs. Only drugs didn't, and don't work. So now we need facilities that aren't there, and the funding isn't there because it's all going to entitlements that keep politicians in office term after term. Nailed it Yep.
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Maybe we could just quit sending as much money as we do out of country, and start focusing on our own country?
Careful!... That's called Nationalism.
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well, yeah to all of that. but, here we are. right here, right now. That's why it's the elephant in the room. personally i hope the elephant remains in the room come thanksgiving. we'll see. i'll do my part. but if it was simple or easy, it'd already be fixed.
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Drugs do work. They do not nor have they been claimed to be a cure. There use is mainly to allow the crazies to mix in with the other folks. Make them less intense. The rational being that there never will be enough hospital beds for the total number of crazy needing the facilities.
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Feds could legalize pot and use the tax $ to fund nut houses. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...health-officials-warn.html#ixzz57iS6Hn5cShhhh don't tell gus
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Agreed on all points, but why does everyone ignore the subject? Actually, "ignore", isn't even close...acknowledge.
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Trump is always ahead of the game. MAGA!
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Drugs do work. They do not nor have they been claimed to be a cure. There use is mainly to allow the crazies to mix in with the other folks. Make them less intense. The rational being that there never will be enough hospital beds for the total number of crazy needing the facilities. How's that working?
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For every 1 person hospitalized their are 100 that are able to maintain employment, and assume relative normal daily lives.
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For every 1 person hospitalized their are 100 that are able to maintain employment, and assume relative normal daily lives. Until they don't.
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Agreed on all points, but why does everyone ignore the subject? Actually, "ignore", isn't even close...acknowledge. at least by some who walk amongst us, its been acknowledged for some time. but not by everyone, and everyone possesses such strange ideas? we ran a state mental facility (we taxpayers paid for it). it was the biggest & best employer in the whole area. tons of jobs, bureaucracy, patients, in-mates, etc. the cost to the tax-payers were horrific. but somebody had to pay. then it was shut down. the "issues" were dispersed across the countryside. no more local sheriff's deputies transporting "patients" for lock up, evaluation & trtmnt. the system was a money hole. something had to be done. local communities had to be diversified in terms of economic development & prosperity. one has to be careful in understanding that mental health lockups have a lot of history going back to uncle joe and his gulag in siberia.
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