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Looking at a CZ from Whittakers...
the one "in stock" have a 21 inch barrel and a one in 12 twist...
the "out of stock" one has a 24 inch barrel, and a one in 9 twist... plus is less in price.
handloading what are the limitations of the 1 in 12 vs the 1 in 9 twists....
can't seem to get an answer out of Whittakers...
any help would be appreciative...
cheers and best regards
seafire
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My Ruger is one in 9. It shots dime size groups. I would go 1 in 9".
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Whats the longest bullet available for the 17 Hornet? 25gr tipped vmax? Not a ton of .17 bullets, are there? What does the bullet manufacturer claim is needed to stabilize?
That's where I'd look.
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I would go with 1-9" as well. 1-12" might handle the 20 grain bullets, almost certainly not 25s, especially the V-Max. I wouldn't risk it.
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Because I also have 17 Fireball, I will only shoot 20 grain VMAX in my Hornet. It's a 77/22 that I had re-barreled. I'll have to check the twist on it.
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Seafire,
The 1-12 will stabilize any 20-grain .17 bullets, hollow-point or tipped, which in my experience are the most useful for ground squirrels and prairie dogs. If you want to shoot 25-30 grain bullets, for whatever reason, the 1-9 will do the job nicely.
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I wonder if the quicker twist would add any to the "splat" factor? Would be interesting to try them side by side.
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Well the one in 12 twist is available NOW..
CZ is out of stock on the one in 9 twist rifles...
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Both CZ's, the American and the Varmint model, have the 1 - 9 twist. I have the Varmint model, Mule Deer's load with AA1680, I believe, is as accurate as is the Hornady factory loads in mine.
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I’m confused. I wasn’t aware CZ made a Hornet with a 1 in12” twist?
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Darrik,
I just checker your website. It says there's a CZ .17 Hornet available with a 1:12 twist. Product code is listed as
101-14203.
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Our mistake on the description! They’re all 1 in 9”. I just verified it with my rep.
I’ll make sure it gets fixed. Thanks John.
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And thanks from me also....
Problem solved.
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