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30-06 or 9.3x62... No need for a Magnum @ 300M.


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Originally Posted by huntsman22
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You're going elk hunting and the style of hunting is to sit in a lawn chair in the mountainous meadows and glass for elk most of the day.
What's your choce of rifle?


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Originally Posted by vapodog
I m bent on using monometals as it's a requirement of the ranch


30-06 / 150 TTSX


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30/06 without a doubt. That's what I use. 180 grain bullet .

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I'd take the one that has proven to have the most stable zero, and has the scope on it with the best low light performance. If you are going to sit there all day, you better hope the scope doesn't dim out on you just as a last light elk steps out.

If you are talking about shooting from the chair, I would do plenty of practice from that position to make sure that LOP, eye relief, and recoil issues are all worked out.

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While I’m no longer shooting/reloading for the H&H, only the AI......people are getting good velocities with the 250 TTSX’s. Check out the Big Bores/Express Rifles site here on “24”. They’ve lots of load info on the H&H. The 250’s should give some good longer range performance! memtb


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the old reliable 30-06


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Originally Posted by vapodog
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You're going elk hunting and the style of hunting is to sit in a lawn chair in the mountainous meadows and glass for elk



How are you getting to this meadow? Day hike in? Reason I ask is I’d take the lightest rifle were I walking in.

As to cartridge, what one will do, the others will do.

BY 4X4 truck. weight isn't an issue.



The one you like shooting the most.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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300 H&H..nostalgia, great round, fun to shoot and will do the job

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300 H&H 150 TTSX

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Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by vapodog
You're going elk hunting and the style of hunting is to sit in a lawn chair in the mountainous meadows and glass for elk



How are you getting to this meadow? Day hike in? Reason I ask is I’d take the lightest rifle were I walking in.

As to cartridge, what one will do, the others will do.


Good advice; the older I get, the lighter I like.

7-08's, 308's. 270's & 280's are plenty adequate for what you are doing in a light(er) rig.

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I can't remember which state had this on their web site. But it stated that shooting an elk quartering to you, you need 2000 lbs of energy with a premium bullet to properly penetrate into the vitals to ethically kill an elk.

So this eliminates the 30-06 as it carries 2000 lbs out to about 300.
Someone mention Creed. Do I need to comment how ridiculous this would be.
The 9.6 carries 2000 lbs out to about 400 yards.
The .375 and .300 H&H out to about 450-500.

So flip the coin on the .375 and .300 H&H.

The guide I'm going with in New Mexico this year said that 350-450 yard shots are pretty normal. Recommends .30 cal magnums or caliber of equivalent or higher power. Or the creed. lol.

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Originally Posted by Adams
I can't remember which state had this on their web site. But it stated that shooting an elk quartering to you, you need 2000 lbs of energy with a premium bullet to properly penetrate into the vitals to ethically kill an elk.

So this eliminates the 30-06 as it carries 2000 lbs out to about 300.
Someone mention Creed. Do I need to comment how ridiculous this would be.
The 9.6 carries 2000 lbs out to about 400 yards.
The .375 and .300 H&H out to about 450-500.

So flip the coin on the .375 and .300 H&H.

The guide I'm going with in New Mexico this year said that 350-450 yard shots are pretty normal. Recommends .30 cal magnums or caliber of equivalent or higher power. Or the creed. lol.


Utter nonsense.


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Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by Adams
I can't remember which state had this on their web site. But it stated that shooting an elk quartering to you, you need 2000 lbs of energy with a premium bullet to properly penetrate into the vitals to ethically kill an elk.

So this eliminates the 30-06 as it carries 2000 lbs out to about 300.
Someone mention Creed. Do I need to comment how ridiculous this would be.
The 9.6 carries 2000 lbs out to about 400 yards.
The .375 and .300 H&H out to about 450-500.

So flip the coin on the .375 and .300 H&H.

The guide I'm going with in New Mexico this year said that 350-450 yard shots are pretty normal. Recommends .30 cal magnums or caliber of equivalent or higher power. Or the creed. lol.


Utter nonsense.


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Often I can't believe the stuff supposedly experienced hunters worry about on the Campfire. This thread is perfect example. The .30-06 would be plenty with 150-grain monometal bullets of any brand. So would plenty of smaller rounds.


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I have heard that before Brad, not all the world hunts like you!


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Originally Posted by Brad
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I m bent on using monometals as it's a requirement of the ranch


30-06 / 150 TTSX


I'm with this dude.......


It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Often I can't believe the stuff supposedly experienced hunters worry about on the Campfire. This thread is perfect example. The .30-06 would be plenty with 150-grain monometal bullets of any brand. So would plenty of smaller rounds.


First off I didn't set the rule on one of the state's web sites. I didn't make up the guide's rules. I have visited many elk guide's sites in the last six months and many of them talk about minimum calibers and bullet sizes to use. One I visited said not to come if you were bring under a certain caliber. Again not my opinion.

Second I wouldn't take a quartering to me shot over 200 yards even though I'm very capable at longer ranges.

Third the 30-06 with a 150 grain bullet of any style at an elk quartering to me at 350-400 yards imho is not enough gun. Much less many smaller calibers shooting light bullets at equal or less speeds. I think there's a lot of experienced elk hunters that would agree with this statement.

I'm not saying you can't kill an elk with 06 at 400 quartering to you with 150 grain bullet. But imho it would nof be very ethical. Just like almost every Outdoor hunting channel t.v. show takes so many unethical shots. That's why I will only watch Jim Shockey and Eastman's. Not saying there aren't a couple more ethical hunting shows.

imho I think a lot of people forget that it is or responsibility when taking an animals life to dispatch of that animal in quickest most humane manner possible.


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You have obviously never killed an elk........................

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