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As I understand it your going to pound Nails in the Summer and run Traps in the winter,regardless of what rifle you get to shoo Bears away,it will most likely hang on pegs in your 12 by 16 Cabin. I would be more concerned with the one you’re going to carry on your line,as Art has said light is your friend. How will it stand up in and out of its carry scabbard,what are you going to do with it at night,leave it outside or take it inside.
You’re post reflect that recoil is not a major concern,I would take a few more pounds of recoil and shave a couple pounds off my rifle, especially if my Machine had a malfunction and I had to Snowshoe back to my Cabin.
Just a couple of thoughts, best to you in your endeavors. 60n148w, Thank you for the couple of thoughts. And thank you also for sending your best. You wrote, " As I understand it..." Yes Sir, You understand it correctly....the part about "pounding nails...running traps..." and such. Concerning the pegs in the 12x16 As I see it, I will be hanging a 20" Barreled Winchesterbbard 97. It currently wears a ramp sight blade/bead, a Williams receiver serves for the rear sight, and being that it is tubed It lends it's self. That one will be kept inside. For personal carry, doing chores around camp, a 5 1/2" barreled Redhawk in 44 Mag (like to aquire one once I arrive) will be carried. Out making sets and doing checks, a 22 for dispatch would be holstered in the sled box. And before den up, I'll sling my Savage 99 TD in 300 Sav when getting off the sno go. Once back on, it'll slide into a scabbard under and behind my right leg on the ski doo. Irons sights for obvious reasons. Maybe at some point I'll want to find a Marlin that thumps a little harder to replace it with, but for now I'll dance with who brung ya. The Savage fits me, the thump of the rifle butt against my shoulder, and sight alignment happens simultaneously, and the lever trumps any of my bolts when it comes to follow up shooting. Heavies for close work. And, as Art suggested, it isn't heavy. For exclusively hunting, what I have I'll use, another lightweight rifle, and for now that looks to be a Tikka T3x in 270 WSM. Again, that is what I have and so, yada, yada, yada. And again, that will be kept outside during the season it will get used. These rifles and scenarios, are of course, subject to change. A stainless model 70 or model 77 in 35 Whelen pushing 250's and dropped into a McEdge would be an example, and a friendly companion for that long walk back to the cabin. I Really liked your post.
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358wsm, I have to admit, my go to rifle is a M70 feather weight in 30-06, I've had one for over 50 years. If your a reloader you might look into the Woodleigh 240 gr made for the 06 velocity. rj308's got a fine looking rifle pictured. Bought a Forbes Rifle in 35 Whelen that I need to get broken out. Weighs in at about 6.5 pounds with a scope. Like someone said up above, light is nice, a little heavy on recoil when needed, but when needed you won't notice. But, no matter what rifle and caliber you pick, the key is being able to use it confidently and reliably. I will admit that I am a bit of a rifle nut, got one of those and 2 of those, which to choose. John
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223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Gentlemen,
Unfortunately mu work day has begun, and I do not have time to give proper response to your posts this morning.
I did write Mr Shoemaker, and he was gracious enough to respond. I will share with you what was said when I return this evening.
Wishing you all a fine day!
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When running the 30-06, how did it perform when attempting to stop a charge.???
Here is the gist of my comments The 30-06 works as well as the shooter does ! The famous Alaskan territorial hunter Jose Sarber was forced to kill many large problem bears and although he owned a 375 H&H he claimed he had more faith in his familiar 30-06. The world record bear was killed on Kodiak with a 30-06 The famous Kodiak guides, bill Pinnell and Morris Talifson, recommended the 30-06 I have also killed numerous big bears with my 30-06, a few that had to be tracked after clients had wounded them, and that charged me. With 200 or 220 gr Nosler partitions or 180 or 200 gr TSX bullets the 06 penetrates as well as the 375. If you place your bullets correctly with a 30-06 it kills big bears very well and if you don't place your bullets well it doesn't matter if you are shooting a 375, 416 or 458, you still have a wounded bear.
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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Now wait a second! Are you saying it’s the indian not the arrow Phil?!?
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Phil, thanks for your valuable input. That'll ease my tensions a bit, provided I can hit well, under extreme stress. RJ
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I would suggest you strongly consider the Marlin 1895 trapper.
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Lots of good recommendations already, but I'm a big fan of the boring old 30-06. If I was in your shoes I'd take a Winchester pre-64 in 30-06 (about a $700 rifle) and a BRNO 602 in 375 H&H (about a $750 bill, I just picked two up for that shipped to me) and be perfectly happy.
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In my opinion if you trust your life on a kimber your going to lose big time, get anything else!!!! Seriously?! WoW! I'm lucky to be alive! Kimber Talkeetna .375 H&H So who is the guy with the Lion ? Sure as hell no the defrocked GS5 hiding in Fredrickburg !
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So who is the guy with the Lion ?
Sure as hell no the defrocked GS5 hiding in Fredrickburg !
White guy with the lion is "me, myself, and I". Never been in civil service (GS) but you keep puffin' up your scrawny chest and crow about things you're completely clueless about! I wonder what BATF and the IRS would say about your "business" of buying and selling firearms when you haven't an FFL? Might want to be careful Larry.... it's ALL out there on the various Forums where you've purchased, and then turned around and sold on Gunbroker and Gunauction just to name a couple... You're not the only one with "files"...
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Its your call as to what you feel comfortable with in the line of protection. If me, it would be a lever gun w/ 16"- 20" barrel shooting 45-70 (a lot of great defensive ammo to choose from); or 45-70/457 Mag lever from WWG. You may be fast with a bolt gun, but you will never outpace a lever gun at close range in a moments notice against a large bruin. Inside of 50 yards the 45-70 loaded correctly with today's excellent bullets (Barnes Buster) is a bone crushing instrument with incredible penetration. If you consider carrying a revolver, the 480 Ruger loaded with 410 HC at 1,200 fps or 475 Linebaugh with 440 HC at 1,300 fps will get the job done giving extreme penetration along with extreme recoil (it take practice to shoot them well under stress). Only one mans opinion. Good Luck.
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