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Poor Root. Still pathetic and a pariah.

Where's part 3 and 4 you psychotic delusional twat? Get busy beotch. 'Fire needs some lulz (everyone laughing at you, not with you). It's your story and delusional twatter. Make it good, but be careful swinging that purse.

You go girl!

Montana Badger . . . "Case capacity is HUGE!!!"

Yes it is. With modern powders, not as much "overbore" as it used to seem.

The .22 Newton did use necked down 30-06 brass with the shoulder set back, resulting in capacity of 54-55 grains of water/@3.5 cc (vs 68 gr H2O/4.4 cc for 30-06). The .270 Win or 25-06 case might be easier to work with, since they would require fewer steps and less effort in the necking-down procedure, although I like to avoid using cases with a confusing headstamp, if you already own a .270 or 25-06.

The 22 Newton used a .227/.228 bullet, which was the small bore before the .224 became popular. Bullets are a problem for the purist. A .224 Newton could avoid that hurdle. Or your idea of a 6.5-06 is also interesting. Much easier to make the cases and you will have a long-action 6.5/284 equivalent. Cooler than even a Creedmoor.

Let us know how your project turns out.

I believe the .22 newton is equal to a .224 TTH( .22/6mmrem. ) Which aint a horrible place to be, and if industrious could still use up some .270 brass. With the newer slow burning powders a .22-06 is more feasible then ever. I say build it, why not?????

At least he's only hiding behind one screen name, unlike someone else that posts here.

I never thought it would be that easy to smoke out a cockroach.

larry root is like a stinky, sticky turd you wipe, but starts itching an hour later because you missed a little.

larry root is like a stinky, sticky turd you wipe, but starts itching an hour later because you missed a little.

Few things as humorous as an ardent gender confused geriatric TROLL feigning fortitude.

Be sure and open your yap all the way Larry, so as to get both of your feet in there!

This thread caused me to get lost again in Landis's book and he states the .22 Newton was "made by swaging and necking down the 7mm Mauser cartridge." Other mega-velocity wildcats of the era that were iterations of the generic ".22-06" were made with '06 cases re-sized to essentially 7x57 capacity. Like I said earlier, probably as a nod to the lack of optimal powders back then. (Although both refer to loads built with 4350, which was about as slow as it got in the late 40's. Surplus 4831 hadn't arrived yet.) Newton saw the cartridge as a long range medium game cartridge, with original performance being a 90 grain bullet at just shy of 3200fps- none too shabby for 100+ years ago..

Ackley stated that he felt 7x57 cases represented optimal case capacity for .22's, at the time. He did base his .228 Ackley Magnum on the full length '06 case though.

I'm merely reporting on state of the art circa 1946. I know not what direction .22-06 case design/capacity took since then.

What really caught my eye in Ness's book was a couple .22 wildcats based on the H&H Magnum case, with wild velocities in the 4000 fps range with 70 grains 4350 and 65 grain bullet. Who knows for sure- they were guesstimating for the most part (and quickly burning out barrels in the process). One cartridge, a .22 based on the .348 case claimed to hit 4300fps with 60 grains 4350 and 40 grain Sisk bullet, confirmed at a General Motors test range in California in 1945.

My god, what a freewheeling time for wildcatters. I often wonder how many eyes and hands were lost back then too.

6mm Remington on a long action with RL 19 will do that....with I am sure, less powder... 10 grains plus I bet.

I guess I should have stated that it shoots 105 gr HPBT at 3350 fps. Will the 6mm Remy do that with 10 grains less powder?

I appreciate the info, but it's not my project.

Fair Question....

46 grains of Rl 19 will send a 115 grain Berger at 3250s fps out of a 24 inch Barrel... bullet seated to long action
magazine length....

same load will run the 105 at 3350 fps... same info as above...

Pac Nor barrel, one in 7 twist...

Comparing the 6mm Rem in this application vs the 6mm/06, is exactly the same logic as
the 6.5 Creedmoor is vs say a 260 or the 6Creedmoor Vs 243...

bullet is seated less in the powder room, and more outside of it...looks like a mini ICBM...

This comparison is only availabe if the 6mm Rem is utilizing a long action...

on a short action its possible but it has to be a single shot with the chamber throated for a long finished cartridge.

I’ve been working with 3 brand new 6mm/06’s lately. One thing about odd six brass, it’s plentiful and a lot cheaper than 284 brass. If you have a cheap barrel and brass on hand along with a 22 neck sizer you sure don’t have much to lose. Please post velocity’s. I get 3900 with 70 noslers in the 6mm06. H414 powder and 27” barrel.

Come to think of it, a 5.56 by 57 would be less ridiculous than a 22.06.

22 TTH.....

Kinda my logic... last batch of bulk .30-06 brass I bought was $20/500 (primed)... .223 take-off barrels are about free and the R700 ADL came to me on trade (and has NO TAKERS at $350)... so I figured I would play around some. Also swimming in Nosler 80 gr CC pills from SPS. Problem is the .223 take off barrel is 1:12... and I need 1:6 (possibly 1:7)

http://www.bergerbullets.com/twist-rate-calculator/

http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/lengths/lengths.shtml#Nosler

That... and the Root "taint" got me thinking something else.

...I already have two 9.3x62M

Maybe a 6.5-06 A-Square

Love having data already published... https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/65-06-a-square/

8 twist would stabilize 80 grain noslers easily

Have a 22-06 that my father-in-law either had built, or bought. It has a 28 in. Douglas barrel, mauser action, and a thumbhole stock with very nice wood.
I have the dies, although could not find load info. The good people at western powders gave me load data, after supplying them needed cartridge measurements.
Did some moderate loads with 55 gr. Vmax bullets at 3850 fps. And are about .5 moa. All of this took place 8 or nine years ago, what is interesting is that I found his load data today in a cigar box with a bit of brass. One of the loads is a 60 gr. Bullet just over 4000 fps.
This is a standard 06 case necked down. It comes out once a year, as my brother-in-law packs this 9 pounder on our annual coyote hunt. It has killed one or more dogs every year. We always think of father in law, when a dog expires with his rifle. His last name by the way is Newton

22-06 is really kinda pointless as it just burns more powder to get the same result as a swift....a 6mm-06 might be a better choice as you could probably get 4000 out of a heavier bullet...