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I have a friend with a 270, and he wants me to reload it for long range. I suggested he swap barrels to a 280, but that's not happening.

Ideas?

Is it this? He has a 1 in 10" Rate of twist, so this might not work.

http://www.bergerbullets.com/introducing-the-berger-270-caliber-170-grain-eol-elite-hunter/

Which probably means this?

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/270-cal-.277-145-gr-eld-x#!/

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Don't know if it is quite the highest... but my 24" 270win will spit the 145 ELDX into nice groups at 3075 fps. with a BC of .536. I believe that meets or beats where a 280AI might be shooting 160 ABs.

Berger's 170gr EOL VLD is higher... but not sure how fast it'll run in a 270win. and you probably wouldn't see any advantage at hunting ranges.


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Nosler's .270 LRAB 150g is listed at .625 BC


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True. Litz tested the 150 LRAB to be .543 in 10twists and .569 in 7 twists.
So, I guess it is up to how fast you can push the 150 in a 10 twister vs the 145


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Actually, Nosler recently had the BC's of the ABLR's tested with Doppler radar and revised them. The 150's G1 BC is now listed as .591, G7 as .298.


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David,

The 170 Berger stabilizes in a 1-10 twist in my part of Montana, but it might not in your area. Both the Hornady and Nosler are designed for 10 twists.


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145 ELD with RL 26 gives the .243AI a run for it's money. Fwiw.


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This is real data from my 243 AI matched with Hornady's Precision Hunter 270 145 ELD load.

What velocities are you getting with RL26?


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145 ELDx 450’ish yards. Can eat all the way to the hole.

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145 ELDx 450’ish yards. Can eat all the way to the hole.



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16 that’s from a win. She was heart shot and pumped the ketchup in every bit of shocked tissue.

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Fred,

Factory or handload? If handload, can you share?


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
This is real data from my 243 AI matched with Hornady's Precision Hunter 270 145 ELD load.

What velocities are you getting with RL26?


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Be honest. You have a hard time opening Noslers new bullet boxes don't you?


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145eld IMR 4831- 59 grains cci 250 Norma brass. Out of a 24”. Only getting 2875fps it shoots in the .4’s. RL 26 or RL 23 depending on the gun would be a better powder choice.

Oh and Dave the gopher trip is on hold this spring. I snagged a really good spring bear hunt so I’m dumping my efforts up on the boarder. Next time I’m down your way that beer still stands.

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Originally Posted by Higbean
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This is real data from my 243 AI matched with Hornady's Precision Hunter 270 145 ELD load.

What velocities are you getting with RL26?


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Be honest. You have a hard time opening Noslers new bullet boxes don't you?


. Dave!!!! is good people. Never rude and always trying to learn.
OH If we are being honest you never had a problem opening a couple snickers bars did you.

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High heels,

I take it from your reply you’re lying again?

You’ve never loaded a 145 ELD close to the a 243 AI?

Thought so.

Do you use a handle instead of your real name because you don’t want people to know what a Royal dumb [bleep] you are?


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Was there ever any doubt Dave?? Never posted a pic with a critter, but she sure knows a lot...... About swinging off the lazy lying bushelors sack....


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He was really excited about the big trip to pac nor once. Oh and begged to get a pass in to shots.
Beyond that he’s a no killing big lipped snatch.

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This little sweetie throws twins every year. And thinks bedding in front of my 100 yard line is required.

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Excited about pac nor???? All the times I’ve been through brookings, it’s never crossed my mind, or plains Montana for lilja for that matter.... funny what horns up the kelpbed and Crockett followers.....


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Excited about pac nor???? All the times I’ve been through brookings, it’s never crossed my mind, or plains Montana for lilja for that matter.... funny what horns up the kelpbed and Crockett followers.....



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Your shiitin, right?


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Pacnor makes the best tube ever, and the .270 BC whips everything else’s ass hence why you see so many 145’s via 270’s at national LR matches. Brux, Boots, Krieger, Hawk Hill apparently can’t hold PN’s jock strap per old HitHisBean.

Learn something new everyday from the so called expert who has tons of advice but no pictures or even posts to back it up. Amazing what a keyboard commando can supposedly do.

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Easy, she might hang a pic of a doe..... haha


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
This is real data from my 243 AI matched with Hornady's Precision Hunter 270 145 ELD load.

What velocities are you getting with RL26?


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And the 243 still wins


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Depending on how you look at it.

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Shiit don’t die from “knockdown power” ...... I’ve seen that literally 100’s of times, mostly with a 7 mag....


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Oh [bleep], thank the lord I was getting ready to name the 243 AI, BRUCE.
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Originally Posted by 16bore
Depending on how you look at it.


I told a stripper that once. 🙂

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Knock down power is very important...... haha


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Or energy!! Haha

Those stupid fuucking Alaskans think the X boolit trumps all.... everything is dumber in Alaska.... grin


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Originally Posted by fredIII
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Depending on how you look at it.


I told a stripper that once. 🙂


In reference to her Adam’s Apple?


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Depending on how you look at it.


I told a stripper that once. 🙂


In reference to her Adam’s Apple?


You go to the wrong strip clubs obviously

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Originally Posted by fredIII


You go to the wrong strip clubs obviously


All of a sudden I have a hankering for a steak and baked potato dinner. Luckily Portland is a bit far for dinner....

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A crop steak. Yummmy.

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Dog shooter would be a Jake’s grilled chicken kinda guy.

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you can only do so much with the 270 win,its a good cartridge if he needs more gun buy a bigger gun.yes the 280 is just a little tiny bit better but both will kill and work fine. here`s a little early history about the .277 bullet : the only reason there is a .277 bullet American`s hated to follow the European 7mm/.284 bullet so American`s designed the .277 bullet. I was told this by a old bullet and gun ballistic engineer 40 years ago when he was 70 some years old. and to be honest the swede`s 6.5 bullet is even better now that`s just another thought to think about ?????


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Originally Posted by fredIII
Dog shooter would be a Jake’s grilled chicken kinda guy.


Fred would be a Jake’s Tossed Salad kinda guy....


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Originally Posted by MallardAddict
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You go to the wrong strip clubs obviously


All of a sudden I have a hankering for a steak and baked potato dinner. Luckily Portland is a bit far for dinner....


Good ol Acropolis...Haven’t been there is many, many moons.


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Haha the ol A crop....


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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
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Dog shooter would be a Jake’s grilled chicken kinda guy.


Fred would be a Jake’s Tossed Salad kinda guy....



Haaahaaaa. You outed me. Hahaha. Don’t tell anybody about the time I fisted you. 😆

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Originally Posted by Beaver10

Good ol Acropolis...Haven’t been there is many, many moons.


Glad to see others enjoyed the Acropolis scenery as well. Wonder if JeffO will chime in........

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Does Jeff like the A crop?


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Does Jeff like the A crop?

Doubtful as the Acrop staff loves their razors, don’t have dreadlocks or smell like patchouli and ball sweat.

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Haha oh god damn er


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Actually, Nosler recently had the BC's of the ABLR's tested with Doppler radar and revised them. The 150's G1 BC is now listed as .591, G7 as .298.


Thanks for the update. Need to make a notation in my Nosler book.


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The 145 ELD load almost takes the fun out of the 243 AI.

Almost. 😎


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Originally Posted by fredIII
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Dog shooter would be a Jake’s grilled chicken kinda guy.


Fred would be a Jake’s Tossed Salad kinda guy....



Haaahaaaa. You outed me. Hahaha. Don’t tell anybody about the time I fisted you. 😆


No need for DShooter to locate the light in his closet....Fred just outed him and hard...with his ✊🏼
I’m disturbed 😢


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Says the guy who already came out..... and is jumping in on his first pride parade.

PS..... After your Portuguise Breakfast with Fred..... ask him why his eyes are so far apart. I’m pretty sure he may be his own grandpa.


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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
Says the guy who already came out..... and is jumping in on his first pride parade.

PS..... After your Portuguise Breakfast with Fred..... ask him why his eyes are so far apart. I’m pretty sure he may be his own grandpa.




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What’s a Portuguese breakfast?


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Not sure..DogS must know the ingredients 😝


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Ask Fred.... he learned it from his Uncle/Brother/Nephew Royce.... he’s from the Brazilian side of the bifurcated family trunk.


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Ask Fred.... he learned it from his Uncle/Brother/Nephew Royce.... he’s from the Brazilian side of the bifurcated family trunk.


You need some new material dogs. 🤣

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Ok, somebody explain a Portuguese Breakfast. No [bleep] way I'm googling that [bleep].
Is it like a dirty sanchez but with coffee? I'm guessing there's lots of sausage involved?

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I think I saw it on the GPO “Passion HD” thread....


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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
I think I saw it on the GPO “Passion HD” thread....


I didn't even know fireball2 was Portuguese.....



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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Ok, somebody explain a Portuguese Breakfast. No [bleep] way I'm googling that [bleep].
Is it like a dirty sanchez but with coffee? I'm guessing there's lots of sausage involved?



Haha oh god damn I’m crying!!!! Kinda like a Dutch rudder????? Lmfao haha


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Well I’m the one dumb enough to google it!!! Haha oh fuuck who comes up with this stuff??? Lol
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This should really be in the "ask the gun writers" section......



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Fireball2, is gonna be pi$$ed it doesn’t taste like chicken...🤮


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Thanks a [bleep]. Lot Jud now ever time I fist dogS. I’m going to be wondering how many cracked eggs, will his ass hold when I’m done.
Easy to tell who shoots and who don’t. Blaaaaahhhhhh 😆

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Crap!!! Sorry guys we will just have to guess. I just got a message that someone with bigger hands has replaced me.
(???who in the hell has hands bigger than those Incredible Hulk toys at Walmart). 😀

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Thanks a [bleep]. Lot Jud now ever time I fist dogS. I’m going to be wondering how many cracked eggs, will his ass hold when I’m done.
Easy to tell who shoots and who don’t. Blaaaaahhhhhh 😆

High Low??? Guesses???? I say 17 1/2 with a little yoke poking out.


I’m figuring DogShooter would have a whole chicken 🐓 jacked up his manus laying yokes faster than McDonald’s can on a Breakfast Happy Meal. 😎


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This should really be in the "ask the gun writers" section......


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So, what is the highest BC hunting bullet in .277/270? We’re 4 pages deep and all I learned is Dog makes breakfast for Fred...Any you fckrs kill schit anymore? Easy to tell who shoots...And who likes big hands...😳


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So, what is the highest BC hunting bullet in .277/270? We’re 4 pages deep and all I learned is Dog makes breakfast for Fred...Any you fckrs kill schit anymore? Easy to tell who shoots...And who likes big hands...😳


😂🤣😂🤣. Breakfast in bed😉.

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So, what is the highest BC hunting bullet in .277/270? We’re 4 pages deep and all I learned is Dog makes breakfast for Fred...Any you fckrs kill schit anymore? Easy to tell who shoots...And who likes big hands...😳


Give me a month we are going spring bear killing in the best WA has to offer. Tag took 8 years to draw.

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We’re sooo gonna pay for our shenanigans when DS reads this schit in the morning...😎


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So, what is the highest BC hunting bullet in .277/270? We’re 4 pages deep and all I learned is Dog makes breakfast for Fred...Any you fckrs kill schit anymore? Easy to tell who shoots...And who likes big hands...😳


Give me a month we are going spring bear killing in the best WA has to offer. Tag took 8 years to draw.


Your heading East I assume..Most of Oregon’s coveted bear tags are for the Imnaha area. Real nice blacky’s there...Get em Fred!


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Yep East.

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Yep East.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
Originally Posted by Beaver10
So, what is the highest BC hunting bullet in .277/270? We’re 4 pages deep and all I learned is Dog makes breakfast for Fred...Any you fckrs kill schit anymore? Easy to tell who shoots...And who likes big hands...😳


Give me a month we are going spring bear killing in the best WA has to offer. Tag took 8 years to draw.



It takes 8 years to draw a bear tag? holy molly they practically give them away here.

If you do draw a tag what is the success rate?


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I’m still trying to figure out how Fred can even misspell schitt using only emojis....that kinda stupid takes real talent.


You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
I’m still trying to figure out how Fred can even misspell schitt using only emojis....that kinda stupid takes real talent.



We are all laughing with you. 🙄

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So, what is the highest BC hunting bullet in .277/270? We’re 4 pages deep and all I learned is Dog makes breakfast for Fred...Any you fckrs kill schit anymore? Easy to tell who shoots...And who likes big hands...😳


Give me a month we are going spring bear killing in the best WA has to offer. Tag took 8 years to draw.



It takes 8 years to draw a bear tag? holy molly they practically give them away here.

If you do draw a tag what is the success rate?


It’s a pretty good tag. 😎

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Originally Posted by irfubar
It takes 8 years to draw a bear tag? holy molly they practically give them away here.

If you do draw a tag what is the success rate?


Fall bears is over the counter in WA. and essentially runs August - November.

Spring bear tags are draw only and Freds runs April-May in a unit full of stud bears

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Anyone shooting this?

A friend likes it in his 270



Nosler Trophy Grade 270 Winchester 130 Grain E-Tip

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I’m not. How ever I have tested them in many other calibers and weights, they preform much like a Barnes just a tiny bit softer.

PS my apologies for derailing your thread.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
I’m not. How ever I have tested them in many other calibers and weights, they preform much like a Barnes just a tiny bit softer.

PS my apologies for derailing your thread.


Fred,

I've NEVER had a thread on the 'fire not get "derailed." Its all good.

Do you prefer the 145 ELD to the 130 E-Tip?

The local Sportsmans has the 130 E-Tip factory loads on the shelf for $24.99/box. I know its marked wrong, but may get all of them just because.


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Yes the 145 ELDX or Nosler 150LRAB. I would even go 140 Nosler AB over the Etip.

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Easy to see why the 270 gets the gay rap.


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