24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#12723029 03/16/18
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
D
Dogger Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
with respect to Kimber Montana, there are some who prefer the 84M over the 84L... curious to know why? is it a "fits me better" thing, or more the function of the platform, or something else?

GB1

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,834
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,834
I have been under the impression that the 84M was a SA length action, and the 84L a LA action, with little if anything else, different. I could be wrong . . . . .


I never thought I'd grow up to be a grumpy old man, but I did, and I'm killin' it.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,482
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,482
Originally Posted by WiFowler
I have been under the impression that the 84M was a SA length action, and the 84L a LA action, with little if anything else, different. I could be wrong . . . . .



That's correct......84M=308 84L=30-06

The 8400 is a larger bolt diameter and fatter magazine well for WSMs and Mags etc.

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 17,801
A
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 17,801
24” vs 22” spouts

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,614
W
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,614
As the others said, plus the 84L is about 8oz. heavier


FÜCK Jeff_O!

MAGA
IC B2

Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 531
P
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
P
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 531
Good post. I always wonder what the differences were.

Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 518
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 518
When I shoulder them the Lop feels shorter on the 84m as well, almost too short for me.
Put a my nose right by my thumb.

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 43,813
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 43,813
FWIW, 84M top, 84L bottom.

[Linked Image]

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
D
Dogger Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
the wrist/grip looks thicker on the 84L... perhaps its the shadow on the 84M

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,907
J
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
J
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,907
Those 2 are very similar other than long action vs short. The original long actions were built on the 8400 action which was far different from the 84's which were on a short action. Given the option of the 8400 in a long action and the short action 84 I'd take the 84 10 times out of 10. With the newer 84L, I could live with ether one depending on the desired cartridge. I think that a lot of the complaints about the long actions go back to that. And they were a viable complaint.


Most people don't really want the truth.

They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
IC B3

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,599
H
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
H
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,599
Perceptions are funny sometimes.....the wood feels like it fits me waaay better on a kimber than the synthetic. Don’t know if that’s any dimensional differences or just that it’s wood. MOF, that’s what keeps me indecisive about a kimber....which version?.....more than L or M or caliber even.

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
D
Dogger Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
interesting, i did a search by cartridge on Kimber's website for 25-06 and they came up as 84L and 8400 in various configurations... why would someone want a Kimber in 25-06 in an 8400???

Last edited by Dogger; 03/16/18. Reason: error in model
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
D
Dogger Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
well belay that, headspace and timing error on my part... i don't see 8400s in 25-06... just 84Ls

Last edited by Dogger; 03/16/18. Reason: spelling
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 723
C
CKW Offline
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 723
According to the specs on the Kimber website, the LOP on the 84M is 13.63" and the 84L LOP is 13.75" along with the longer action and barrel is a slightly longer LOP which appeals to some.


"It is wise, though, to remember above all else: rifle, caliber, scope, and even bullets notwithstanding, the most important feature of successful big game hunting is to put that bullet in the correct place, the first time!" John Jobson
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,255
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 30,255
I've had a pile of 84M MT's (currently have three), but have only had four 84L MT's.

I prefer the 84M. It just feels and looks "righter" to me. I find the 84L MT's shank too long (it's an additional 1/2" longer for no good reason), and I dislike the 24 spout. With the short forearm I think it looks a bit goofy. I cut all four of mine, three to 23" and one to 22.5." If I had another, which I have no plans to do, I'd cut it to 22".

If I were limited to one MT it would be a 308...


“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 22,735
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 22,735
Originally Posted by Dogger
with respect to Kimber Montana, there are some who prefer the 84M over the 84L... curious to know why? is it a "fits me better" thing, or more the function of the platform, or something else?


Obviously your preference in caliber is going to dictate which model you purchase. But having many of both, I find either model easy enough to adapt to. Good luck.


My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,809
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,809
Most if not all 84L Kimbers are 2 1/2" longer then the 84M


Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
D
Dogger Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,369
how is the gas handling on the Kimber rifles?

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,809
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,809
Originally Posted by Dogger
how is the gas handling on the Kimber rifles?


Gas?


Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,698
z1r Online Content
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,698
Originally Posted by tedthorn
Originally Posted by Dogger
how is the gas handling on the Kimber rifles?


Gas?


You know, when a case ruptures or a primer gets pierced. The hot expanding gases have to go somewhere. Where they go is fairly important.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
YB23

204 members (260madman, 338reddog, 360bull, 1_deuce, 30Gibbs, 264mag, 33 invisible), 1,343 guests, and 1,077 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,190,219
Posts18,447,459
Members73,899
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.045s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8904 MB (Peak: 1.0234 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-16 05:29:24 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS