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I purchased Redding die set a number of years ago for .308 Winchester. It has full length die and bullet seating die. The die box says .308 winchester .307 winchester on it.

The rifle die set is for a pump rifle my dad had and is seldom used. So this is first time using the die since purchasing a few years ago. I have set up many Redding dies before.

So I set the full length die so that it is just touching the shell holder. However, when I resize the case, the neck is not resizing and not touching the neck expander on the up stroke. I can take a bullet and freely run it in and out of the resized casing.

Do I have an improperly sized die or am I missing something? Questioning if I'm loosing my mind.

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It sounds like the die is suspect. Maybe a .338 Federal or .358 die got put in your box by mistake.

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Yup, defective die. Did they send you a bushing die (with no bushing) by mistake?

Also, adjusting the die to fit brass to your rifle is much better than just running it down to the shellholder, and it's not difficult to do.

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Originally Posted by Yondering

Also, adjusting the die to fit brass to your rifle is much better than just running it down to the shellholder, and it's not difficult to do.


this method is fine for bolt action rifles as they have the camming action to close the bolt. I seen many pumps. lever, and semi auto actions jam using this method, you better off using small base dies for these actions. If you size this way for those actions you may get away for it for awhile but it will bite you in the azz down the road. Set your dies up as the manufacturer suggest. What are the markings on the die itself, if you have cerrosafe you can do a chamber cast but make sure you use molding clay in the threaded area where the recapping stem threads into the die or you will not be able to get the casting out.

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It has to be the wrong die, I have a set of 308 small base dies I would let you have cheap if you want them. I bought them for an auto rifle I no longer own.

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You might send them to Redding, they might send you a new set. RCBS probably would if it was their die.

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Well the good news. I'm not loosing my mind. lol. I will give RCBS a call on Monday. Hopefully they'll send me a new resizing die. I hope they just take my word for it but my guess is they will want the bad die. I don't mind sending it to them if they pay for it. I'll find out tomorrow.



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Originally Posted by Adams
I purchased Redding die set a number of years ago for .308 Winchester. It has full length die and bullet seating die. The die box says .308 winchester .307 winchester on it.

The rifle die set is for a pump rifle my dad had and is seldom used. So this is first time using the die since purchasing a few years ago. I have set up many Redding dies before.

So I set the full length die so that it is just touching the shell holder. However, when I resize the case, the neck is not resizing and not touching the neck expander on the up stroke. I can take a bullet and freely run it in and out of the resized casing.

Do I have an improperly sized die or am I missing something? Questioning if I'm loosing my mind.


What make of brass are you using?

What is the OD of the expander ball?

What is the OD of the neck of the brass after sizing?

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Originally Posted by Adams
I purchased Redding die set a number of years ago for .308 Winchester. It has full length die and bullet seating die. The die box says .308 winchester .307 winchester on it.

The rifle die set is for a pump rifle my dad had and is seldom used. So this is first time using the die since purchasing a few years ago. I have set up many Redding dies before.

So I set the full length die so that it is just touching the shell holder. However, when I resize the case, the neck is not resizing and not touching the neck expander on the up stroke. I can take a bullet and freely run it in and out of the resized casing.

Do I have an improperly sized die or am I missing something? Questioning if I'm loosing my mind.



ARE THEY REDDING BUSHING DIES? Redding does not send the neck sizing bushing part with the die but you have to purchase the bushings separately. Been there done that.


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Originally Posted by Adams
I purchased Redding die set a number of years ago for .308 Winchester. It has full length die and bullet seating die. The die box says .308 winchester .307 winchester on it.

The rifle die set is for a pump rifle my dad had and is seldom used. So this is first time using the die since purchasing a few years ago. I have set up many Redding dies before.

So I set the full length die so that it is just touching the shell holder. However, when I resize the case, the neck is not resizing and not touching the neck expander on the up stroke. I can take a bullet and freely run it in and out of the resized casing.

Do I have an improperly sized die or am I missing something? Questioning if I'm loosing my mind.



Originally Posted by Adams
Well the good news. I'm not loosing my mind. lol. I will give RCBS a call on Monday. Hopefully they'll send me a new resizing die. I hope they just take my word for it but my guess is they will want the bad die. I don't mind sending it to them if they pay for it. I'll find out tomorrow.



Thanks for the replies.


I think you may have loosed your mind. Calling RCBS about Redding dies will likely get you nowhere. grin

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I think you may have loosed your mind. Calling RCBS about Redding dies will likely get you nowhere. grin[/quote]

I was just thinking the same thing

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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Adams
I purchased Redding die set a number of years ago for .308 Winchester. It has full length die and bullet seating die. The die box says .308 winchester .307 winchester on it.

The rifle die set is for a pump rifle my dad had and is seldom used. So this is first time using the die since purchasing a few years ago. I have set up many Redding dies before.

So I set the full length die so that it is just touching the shell holder. However, when I resize the case, the neck is not resizing and not touching the neck expander on the up stroke. I can take a bullet and freely run it in and out of the resized casing.

Do I have an improperly sized die or am I missing something? Questioning if I'm loosing my mind.



Originally Posted by Adams
Well the good news. I'm not loosing my mind. lol. I will give RCBS a call on Monday. Hopefully they'll send me a new resizing die. I hope they just take my word for it but my guess is they will want the bad die. I don't mind sending it to them if they pay for it. I'll find out tomorrow.



Thanks for the replies.


I think you may have loosed your mind. Calling RCBS about Redding dies will likely get you nowhere. grin


That's just how good RCBS customer service is.



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Originally Posted by gemby58



I think you may have loosed your mind. Calling RCBS about Redding dies will likely get you nowhere. grin[/quote]

I was just thinking the same thing
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Thanks for pointing that out. There's always someone on this site to point me in the right direction. Boy wouldn't I have looked stupid calling RCBS. Or maybe is was just a slip.

Also why don't you learn how to use the quote reply.

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Originally Posted by Adams
I purchased Redding die set a number of years ago for .308 Winchester. It has full length die and bullet seating die. The die box says .308 winchester .307 winchester on it.

The rifle die set is for a pump rifle my dad had and is seldom used. So this is first time using the die since purchasing a few years ago. I have set up many Redding dies before.

So I set the full length die so that it is just touching the shell holder. However, when I resize the case, the neck is not resizing and not touching the neck expander on the up stroke. I can take a bullet and freely run it in and out of the resized casing.

Do I have an improperly sized die or am I missing something? Questioning if I'm loosing my mind.



Originally Posted by Adams
Well the good news. I'm not loosing my mind. lol. I will give RCBS a call on Monday. Hopefully they'll send me a new resizing die. I hope they just take my word for it but my guess is they will want the bad die. I don't mind sending it to them if they pay for it. I'll find out tomorrow.



Thanks for the replies.


I think you may have loosed your mind. Calling RCBS about Redding dies will likely get you nowhere. grin


Thanks also Wttail for your helpful comments don't know what I'd do without guys like you.

Did either of you have any further help on the situation? Or is that all you got?

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Originally Posted by mathman

What make of brass are you using?

What is the OD of the expander ball?

What is the OD of the neck of the brass after sizing?


I'm using Winchester brass. OD of expander = .306.5 OD of neck is .332 ID of neck = .306 depending on where one measures

The unfired new Winchester brass OD of neck .330 ID of neck = .303 depending on where one measures

I checked 5 different bullets weights from two different manufactures and all of them just fall into the resized case.

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Originally Posted by Trystan



ARE THEY REDDING BUSHING DIES? Redding does not send the neck sizing bushing part with the die but you have to purchase the bushings separately. Been there done that.


Trystan


No. I have two sets. One for my xbolt and one for the pump rifle.

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Originally Posted by Adams
I'm using Winchester brass. OD of expander = .306.5 OD of neck is .332 ID of neck = .306 depending on where one measures

The unfired new Winchester brass OD of neck .330 ID of neck = .303 depending on where one measures

I checked 5 different bullets weights from two different manufactures and all of them just fall into the resized case.

Am I reading that right that a 0.308" bullet is falling into a 0.306" hole?

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What caliber bullets are you loading?


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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT

Am I reading that right that a 0.308" bullet is falling into a 0.306" hole?


All my .308 bullets Hornady and Nolslers vary from .306.5 to .307. Maybe my micrometer is off .001. But it's all relative. I'd be curious to find out if my micrometer is off .001?

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For what it's worth, I just tried pushing a .243" bullet into a .241" neck with my fingers, and couldn't. I don't want to go back and read everything again, so will ask. Are both sizing dies giving you the same results?

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Originally Posted by Adams
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT

Am I reading that right that a 0.308" bullet is falling into a 0.306" hole?


All my .308 bullets Hornady and Nolslers vary from .306.5 to .307. Maybe my micrometer is off .001. But it's all relative. I'd be curious to find out if my micrometer is off .001?


Ya think?



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