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I recently had a disappointing elk hunt, booked thru them. They lied about the guide/outfitter, misrepresented how the horseback hunt would be conducted, and then have not followed through on how a future hunt would be arranged.
When I finally contacted Keith today, he was belligerent, and rude in his response to me concerning the way I've been treated. Jack Sr would rip Keith a new one, if he were still around.
Heads up for any of you considering booking thru them. There is a good chance it would not play out as described by them.
I should have just bought a [bleep] T3...
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It’s a shame to be treated like that when guided hunts are so expensive.
I hunted Antelope last year with Sagebrush Hunts guided by Jeremy Gugelmeyer in Dalhart, Tx. Nothing was misrepresented. The food was top notch. And, he tailored the hunt to my bad knee. It was fun & definitely a full experience. I feel like I got more than I paid for.
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I am unsure if Jack is still alive or not but i can tell you he was / is a hell of a man. Hope this gets worked out.
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Thats a shame, I always thought using them would almost guarantee a good experience. Once upon a time, booking agents were almost the only way to find an outfitter. Not now, shows give you a chance to talk face to face, the Internet is everything at your fingers.
They better fix this fast, customer service is all they can offer today.
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Agreed...
w/out going into Detail, They definitely have progressed backwards over the last several Years.....
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"Progressed backwards," I'm gonna steal that one.
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"Progressed backwards," I'm gonna steal that one. LOL, I was thinking the same thing. He's channeling Yogi Berra.
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Progressed backwards is a good term. I’m stealing it too.
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I only ever used one booking agent. Ill never use another. Lies and deception were the order of the day.
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I recently had a disappointing elk hunt, booked thru them. They lied about the guide/outfitter, misrepresented how the horseback hunt would be conducted, and then have not followed through on how a future hunt would be arranged.
When I finally contacted Keith today, he was belligerent, and rude in his response to me concerning the way I've been treated. Jack Sr would rip Keith a new one, if he were still around.
Heads up for any of you considering booking thru them. There is a good chance it would not play out as described by them. Why post this months after the hunt? Just curious.
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I'd be interested, I think, to read what was promised and what was not delivered. Usually those threads get interesting.
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Well, these sorts of posts are generally a guy signing up (joining here) for the sole purpose of bagging on an outfitter.
I haven't seen Al around here much lately but I know him well enough (here and outside the campfire) that if he tells me it's raining, I'm packing a raincoat.
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Someone that handles the advertising and arranging the dates of your hunt. They may have more than one property at their disposal. Their sole purpose is to fill all the available hunt dates per property. Usually employed by ranches to do the scheduling,freeing up the land owners time to tend to his own business. All for a fee. In my case he was smooth. Like silk. And lied like there was no tomorrow. Our party were promised use of showers,and access to the whole 10,000 acre ranch. It came to pass that we weren't allowed to use the showers,and were barred from all the good roost timber on the ranch. We were Turkey hunting. The caretaker of the ranch said that particular pasture was reserved for some guys from General Motors, who entertain business guests there. So,we drove on down to Sonora and showered at a motel. We sat in camp not 200 yards from pasture 2B, and listened to Turkey on the roost in the evenings. I did shoot one Rio. At distance with a rifle I'd brought for hog hunting. It was the only bird taken that week between 3 camps of hunters. One fella across the road from us, was there for the last bird of his grand slam. He was praying for our booking agent to pop in for a visit. Don't think he wanted to talk much though. Lesson learned.
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"Progressed backwards," I'm gonna steal that one. You do realize the word is regressed, right?
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"Progressed backwards," I'm gonna steal that one. You do realize the word is regressed, right? Don't be that guy. P
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This is a bummer to hear.
Jack Atcheson is a pioneer in the booking industry and a Montana legend. Always thought his boys would carry that legacy on with his high standards.
I hope it is just an isolated incident?
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I'd be interested, I think, to read what was promised and what was not delivered. Usually those threads get interesting. More details would be helpful
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