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When are we going to see a 25 Creedmoor? For the 25 fans. It would basically be a .250 Savage AI................which would be pretty cool.

I favour my 257Roberts over all other rifles but really don't see what a 25cal CM would offer in advantages over the 6.5.

As a wildcat,
https://www.outdoorhub.com/how-to/2017/03/06/introducing-new-257-wildcat-cartridge-2fity-hillbilly/

Manson reamers can supply the reamer.
Ronnie

The was an article in "Rifle" or "Handloader" magazine last year where the author had a 25 Creedmoor made. Hormady made the reloading dies along with a gunsmith whose name I can't recall cut the chamber after having a custom reamer made by Clymer. From what I can recall from the article the 25 Creedmore basically duplicates the .257 Roberts in velocity.....no surprise there.

I very much doubt Hornady will invest any R&D into a .25 Creedmoor as a commercial cartridge for a multitude of reasons. Today's cartridge marketplace demands high "BC" bullets and fast twist barrels to have a chance to succeed. A "25 Creedmore" would require barrel twists of 1/9 or 1.8.5 and the investment of bullets weights obtaining BC's in at least the .5 range to compete with the 6mm Creedmoor or 6.5 Creedmoor.

I am a .25 caliber fan having a 250 Savage and a 25.06. If a 25 Creedmoor was offered I would buy one just to fit in between what I presently have...if that makes sense? Using common sense I have a Tikka T3X in
6.5 Creedmoor in left hand stainless on pre-order with Whittakers. With bullets weights from 120 grs to 130 grs ( my chosen bullet weight use) the 6.5 Creedmoor supplements the lack of a 25 Creedmore rather nicely.

When John Holliger came down this week to hog hunt he used the 25DTI cartridge. I am impressed with it. He was shooting 87 grain bullets. Accuracy was great.

My thought as well. As much as I like the Roberts, I see the Creedmoor as the "Better Bob."

Hornaday would need to start the redundancy division to work on this after they re-invent the wheel. All practicality aside it would be a great cartridge.

I can't see any advantage to a .257" bore cartridge built on the Creedmoor format, as there aren't any long, VLD, .257" bullets that could take advantage of the shorter Creedmoor case in a short action.

The better short action .257" bore cartridge is, in my mind, the proven performer 25 Souper.

Ayup.

The .25 Creedmoor will probably appear after today's incredibly high-level demand for the .25 Souper, .250 Ackley Improved and .257 Roberts dies down.

Build it and they will come, the Field of Dreams marketing philosophy, see Remington's O/U shotguns that aren't 32s or 3200s and Ruger S/S Gold Label shotguns.

LOL!
I always thought it would be funny to run a .25 in NRA Highpower. Just because I'm a knucklehead.

Now that is funny right there. The post of the day..

I have the reamer and built the rifle.. it is on a predator action, jewel, Bartlein, Mcmillin... It shoots extremely well.

The lure for me was Lapua brass and a few bullets that work for my intended use..

Butch Lambert here on the fire knows me well..

I fully agree with the reasons stated above, why it will likely never see commercial status. And I'm a fully committed 257Roberts slut. But if I were starting today, I'd probably jump on the 6.5CM bandwagon. 120gr bullets at 2900ish, and 100gr bullets at 3100ish fit my needs perfectly, and the availability of accurate off-the-shelf rifles and ammo is attractive..

But I have the same ballistics with my 257s and I already have rifles, brass, bullets, etc., so no reason to change. I'd not a long range guy, and if I want a bullet heavier than 120grains, I'd prefer a 270, 280. or 30-06.

I foresee the .250 Savage case becoming the basis of every new chambering known to man for the next 10 years. Reasoning be damned. It's gonna get blown out and necked up or down to everything from the 224 to the 358. And people will buy it.



Travis

I am glad you chimed in, Many of us here applaud your insight and motivation to create the .25 Creedmoor. I did enjoy the article you penned in I believe in "Rifle" magazine on your development of the first 25 Creedmore. Please don't lose your 25 Creedmoor reamer......someone here may want to rent the reamer in the future.

Hummm... I foresee a 257 Grendel in someones future. NOT mine

While the 25 Creedmoor may be an exceedingly fine cartridge, is it really any more useful for anything a person is likely to shoot with a medium case capacity .257" bore rifle than the 25 Souper, 250AI, 257 Roberts, 257AI, or 25 WSSM?

Different? Sure.

Better? Yet to be seen.

For me the lapua brass with a small primer pocket, like the 6.5x47 lapua, allows you to run higher pressures if you are so inclined. The small pp offers more resistance to case head expansion than domestic brass in the above mentioned cartridges. IMO, the lapua brass also uses a better alloy which allows higher pressure before you encounter pressure signs like hard bolt lift, brass flow into the ejector pin hole and excessive case head expansion..

The only benefit to all this is higher velocities, if you wish...

I also have chambered rifles in 6 creed and in 6.5/47 lapua as well as that case necked down to 6mm..
All fine rounds, as are the rounds mentioned earlier in this thread.