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What can I build on a Turkish large ring,with a small bore?


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Otter6,

You can build anything you want as long as it fits in the 3.300 magazine box. Even then with extensive work you could modify it for a 375H&H cartridge lenght.

The small shank barrel threads are no deterrent One of the advantages to the small shank makes it easy to re-purpose barrels for it.

I used a Ruger M77 30-06 barrel on a Turk, the gunsmith turned the shank down and it worked fine. It was a low budget gun and turned out great, I also used a Boyds walnut stock.

I am currently building a 338-06 on a Turk, another budget gun using left over parts I have.

With the Turk it shares the common 98 parts, build away and enjoy

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Thanks for the insight. A co-worker has an action for sale,and I was curious what it would be good for. He's asking $160 for it. Action and bottom metal. How is the price?


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When you factor a barrel, d/t for scope mount, safety and trigger you can buy a new rifle that will be less expensive and lighter weight. Unless you want to build a 7X57 or 8X57 you'll have aditional $ into new bottom metal.

I've done a couple of sporterized '98's, now I know better.

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$160.00 is top dollar for a Turk, as 458 Lott says if you want to save money starting with a military Mauser is not the way to go. But if you can do most of the work yourself it is a worthwhile and fun project.

You will need to weld or forge the bolt handle, drill & tap if you want a scope. Replace the safety.

Now if you build an iron sight gun you wont need to change the safety and forging the bolt as opposes to cutting and welding a new bolt is practical.

My last Turk I drilled& tapped, installed a Timney safety and trigger, as mentioned before I had the smith install a Ruger 30-06 stainless take off barrel that cost $50.00 + install.

I used Brownells ceramic spray coating. The Boyds stock was just over $100.00. A friend loved the gun after borrowing it from me and made me an offer I couldn't refuse.


My latest Turk is going to be an iron sight 338-06, I have a ER Shaw barrel ordered, it will go in a laminate Richards micro fit left over from years ago.
I will Cerakote it. It is going to be a camping, spare , foul weather rifle...... It will ride behind the seat of my truck, in saddle scabbards, strapped to the raft frame etc....

If Shaw ever delivers my barrel I will put it together and post pic's. I know Big Stick loves Mausers and loves to look at them and comment on them ..... smile


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Originally Posted by 458 Lott
When you factor a barrel, d/t for scope mount, safety and trigger you can buy a new rifle that will be less expensive and lighter weight. Unless you want to build a 7X57 or 8X57 you'll have aditional $ into new bottom metal.

I've done a couple of sporterized '98's, now I know better.

precisely and worse yet....when it's all done, you'll still have a Turkish Mauser.....

I've bult way too many guns from military Mausers....in recent years i'st M-70 almost exclusively. It simply cost less to use one of them for a starter action and often times the barrel can be salvaged as well.

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Originally Posted by Otter6
What can I build on a Turkish large ring,with a small bore?


Would make a damn fine 8x57.


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You all have pretty much confirmed all my suspicions. I was just kicking it around in my head. I've worked as a machinist,welder / fabricator for years. The mods would have been tinker work,but the cost was wearing on my better judgement. The 7X57 , 8X57, maybe 358 Win in an open sight format would be fun,but I have little use for one. Maybe I should take a pass on the Turk.


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JC Higgins M50 .270

Just an alternative. You'll be way ahead and have a nice Mauser actioned rifle.



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I have never seen a JC Higgins M50 like that - it has a 3 position safety and the bolt handle is military style. I have owned a half-dozen of them and mine had the up-down 2-position safety on the left side of the bolt shroud and the bolt handles were nicely swept back and were flat on the bottom.
I wonder is this is not a parts gun, or if it any early version of the M50.

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Looks to be a Higgins 50 barreled action and stock but with a military bolt.

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Originally Posted by LEADMINER
Looks to be a Higgins 50 barreled action and stock but with a military bolt.


I would agree.


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Originally Posted by drover
I have never seen a JC Higgins M50 like that - it has a 3 position safety and the bolt handle is military style. I have owned a half-dozen of them and mine had the up-down 2-position safety on the left side of the bolt shroud and the bolt handles were nicely swept back and were flat on the bottom.
I wonder is this is not a parts gun, or if it any early version of the M50.

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That's because that bolt is out of a K98(or similar military Mauser). That isn't the bolt that came in ANY new Higgins.


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Saw that one myself. Had to laugh. I suspect the original bolt was lost and Bubba bought one from a parts seller.

Question I have is if the seller knows what he's selling? If so, his Mama must be proud!


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Saw that one myself. Had to laugh. I suspect the original bolt was lost and Bubba bought one from a parts seller.

Question I have is if the seller knows what he's selling? If so, his Mama must be proud!

Wonder what the headspace is like, a 98 militay bolt dropped in an FN commercial action...

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Saw that one myself. Had to laugh. I suspect the original bolt was lost and Bubba bought one from a parts seller.

Question I have is if the seller knows what he's selling? If so, his Mama must be proud!

Wonder what the headspace is like, a 98 militay bolt dropped in an FN commercial action...

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PROBABLY alright, but not always. I've swapped bolts before, but not without a set of headspace gauges handy.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Saw that one myself. Had to laugh. I suspect the original bolt was lost and Bubba bought one from a parts seller.

Question I have is if the seller knows what he's selling? If so, his Mama must be proud!

Wonder what the headspace is like, a 98 militay bolt dropped in an FN commercial action...

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PROBABLY alright, but not always. I've swapped bolts before, but not without a set of headspace gauges handy.

Not something I'd buy, sight unseen...

Could be a "pig in the poke"...

That military bolt will take some expense to convert to sporting configuration.

I'd be embarrassed to offer such a gun...

Just me.

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I have a couple of Turks and have built a couple dozen rifles on them over the years. I bought them for about thirteen dollars each. I have barrelled them for everything from 22/250 to 8mm Rem Mag(used two actions for that one) and all worked out well. I have machined the receiver to small ring dimensions. When I started gunsmithing in the late seventies, Mauser builds were still a prominent feature of the gunsmithing trade. Today, it's hard to find a 'smith who will weld a bolt handle and you would swear that drilling and tapping is akin to rocket surgery instead of the fifteen minute job it should be. In the modern world, it's a lot easier to just fall into step and buy a plastic Tikka. GD

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I have seen a couple of Turkish Mauser custom rifles that were truly a work of art, but the guys who built them did it themselves. I believe they bought the complete rifles back in the 90s for something like $60 a piece.

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$160 is kinda steep for a Turk action. $75 is about right. If you farm the work out, you will have $800 into a $475 rifle. If you do the work yourself and count your labor as free, you'll have $400 into a $475 rifle. You can make anything you want on them. The easiest would be short action stuff like the 243/308 family or the Mauser family like the 6 Rem, 257 Bob .... If you want to do a 243 or 6-284 let me know as I have barrels.


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