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Guys, I currently don't own any bolt action rifle. And I have been thinking of getting one in the future. I can only afford one, a good one I assume. So what should I get?

I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities.

I gathered some info online, people praised Winchester 70 pre 64, Remington 700 police or 5R, Steyr...
But I believe some of you have a lot more experience and would be able to point a direction for me.

Thanks!

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The “hunting game” encompasses a pretty large arena. What game and what areas of the country did you have in mind?

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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
The “hunting game” encompasses a pretty large arena. What game and what areas of the country did you have in mind?


The only animal I would kill is the coyote but I will keep deer in mind just in case I need meat.

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Yup.....I picked up one of these in .308 Win chambering for $275.....add some shipping and FFL fees (it was used)....it hit about $325.....It's one helluva shooter and is good for anything that walks north America and most of Africa.....Normally, I'm a model 70 fan.....and still am....but this Howa is something to take notice of.....I recommend them highly.

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Yup.....I picked up one of these in .308 Win chambering for $275.....add some shipping and FFL fees (it was used)....it hit about $325.....It's one helluva shooter and is good for anything that walks north America and most of Africa.....Normally, I'm a model 70 fan.....and still am....but this Howa is something to take notice of.....I recommend them highly.


But if you could only have one bolt action rifle, will you still choose howa?

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Originally Posted by iviax
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The “hunting game” encompasses a pretty large arena. What game and what areas of the country did you have in mind?


The only animal I would kill is the coyote but I will keep deer in mind just in case I need meat.

There are some great choices in the bolt action rifle market that would meet this criteria but for a reasonsbly priced no fuss rifle I would suggest a Tikka T3x stainless/synthetic chambered in .243 Win......Good luck....Hb

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No. I personally would not. I would choose a Winchester classic stainless model 70 in 30/06.
But my needs are different and fortunately I’m not limited one.

In your shoes, I’d be mighty tempted to just call Melvin ... or go the simple route with a Tikka t3x in 6.5 creed or a Barrett Fieldcraft in 6 or 6.5 creed.

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The “hunting game” encompasses a pretty large arena. What game and what areas of the country did you have in mind?


The only animal I would kill is the coyote but I will keep deer in mind just in case I need meat.

There are some great choices in the bolt action rifle market that would meet this criteria but for a reasonsbly priced no fuss rifle I would suggest a Tikka T3x stainless/synthetic chambered in .243 Win......Good luck....Hb


Posted while I was pecking... also a good option!

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Someone also suggested Steyr Scout and Kimber classic or Mountain Ascent . What about those?

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One bolt rifle for coyotes, targets, and maybe a deer someday...I’d probably wait and grab a Tikka CTR .223 when they appear.

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For coyotes and deer it would be chambered in .223 with an 8 or 9" twist. The twist requirement would somewhat limit your choices. I'd probably go Tikka T3X myself.

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Originally Posted by iviax
Someone also suggested Steyr Scout and Kimber classic or Mountain Ascent . What about those?

My preference out of the lot would be a Kimber.

Yes, have shot the Steyr Scout a lot, son has one I reload for in 308.

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OP still hasn’t said where he plans to do this possible hunting.

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I just did a quick count and 11 of my rifles are Rugers of which eight are bolt actions. The good old Ruger (blued/walnut of course smile ) is a strong, solid, all metal, reliable hunting rifle. For what you are looking at hunting, a .243 would be suitable if using factory ammo, but if you hand load I'd look round for one of the .257 Roberts that they did a few years ago. The 85gn Ballistic Tip would be good for small game and a 100-115gn Ballistic Tip would do for the occasional deer. Or just load the 100gn Ballistic Tip for everything.

If you wanted a bit higher spec rifle the Mauser M12 would be a candidate but I'm not sure how popular they are in the States. Mine is very accurate right out of the box with a crisp trigger and floated barrel. Just clean off the packing oils and shoot it. Rugers often need the triggers worked a bit and just about every single one of mine shot better when floated and bedded.


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Originally Posted by iviax
Guys, I currently don't own any bolt action rifle. And I have been thinking of getting one in the future. I can only afford one, a good one I assume. So what should I get?

I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities.

I gathered some info online, people praised Winchester 70 pre 64, Remington 700 police or 5R, Steyr...
But I believe some of you have a lot more experience and would be able to point a direction for me.

Thanks!



I am going to assume that you exclude rimfires and small game here, and are looking for a medium to large game rifle. I would look out for a Husqvarna were I a careful man with money, a Brno model 21 if I cared about style and pride of ownership, a Brno ZG47 were I to want something I could have serious work done to in the future for use as a large game rifle.


And if Jorge says anything about Weatherby you can take it with a grain of salt as he just couldn't bring himself to go the whole hog and get a 270.


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Originally Posted by Henryseale
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My Dentist had one locally, and used it for beating up on car wrecks. I just couldn't work myself up to liking it.

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Since you don't seem to own any rifles...I would recommend a model 70 in 7mm08. It's a classic action in a reliable caliber that won't kick too much. A great set-up for a novice and someone with a safe full of rifles too.

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Tikka,
6.5 Creed, or 7-08.
Good gun, lightweight, good cost/quality ratio.
Flat shooting cartridges, light recoil, reasonably available and cost ammo.
More than enough for coyote, perfect for deer.

Or, use a 270 for easier available and cheaper (on sale) ammo.


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A used Remington 700 chambered for .270 Winchester. A Rem 700 is like the Chevy small block 350 engine. There is a world of aftermarket parts to make it into whatever you want it to be (long range, varmint, etc). .270 Win because it will kill mice to moose without beating you up. Finally, you can buy .270 Win cartridges most any place in the world that sells ammo.



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If I could only have one bolt action I would go full on custom.
Also would not make it a flyweight or a truck axle pipe either.
Would go middle of the road 7.5 lb 23” bbl .308 and put a Leupold 2.5x8 with M1 turrets on it.
I’m sure that would cover a lot of ground in the hunting/target shooting arena.


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I have a Steyr PH in .376 Steyr, 7 magazines, 600+ pieces of brass(232 once fired) 9 box's of Hornady 270 gr soft points.
It's got warne maximas bases, Warne Maxima QRW rings and a Leipold VXR Patrol 3-9x40 scope with Alumina covers.
I've been loading for the caliber for nearly 2 decades and have a load that puts 3 in one hole.
I also have a spare stock and additional buttpads made by bonding a limbsaver to a spacer.
I could get by with this rifle and hunt everything on the planet.


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Only one factory rifle? Weatherby Mark V six lug ultralight in .280 Rem. or .270 Win.


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Probably a .243 with something between a 9 and 9.25 twist, so it'll easily handle 80 to 100 grain bullets. So that means a Ruger, Remington, or Savage, and possibly a couple others. This will easily get you out to 300 yards without having too much drop, is easy to shoot, ammo everywhere, and perfectly adequate for yotes and meat deer at that range.
Although a 10 twist will get you there for deer with the 80 to 85 grain GMX/TSX, and some have successful stabilization with up to 95 grain plastic tipped premium conventional bullets, although both at a higher cost. So that would open up your rifle options.
This is probably over thinking it more than a bit.

If you want even less kick and noise, here's some better options.

A .223 is the obvious answer if you just want something to shoot a lot at the range, but carry in the field a little or a lot. I'd get a not too heavy rifle with a standard weight 22" barrel, or a lightweight 20" barrel if you prefer to carry a lot and shoot a little, and 8 or 9 twist so it could better handle the 60 to 70 grain hunting bullets that are better for deer if you happen to use it for that. Practice ammo is cheap and widely available. One of my top choices in a carry rifle with a 1:9 twist would be the 20" barreled relatively compact and lightweight Remington Model 7 Stainless. The other Model 7's have a 12 twist. Or for a shooting rifle that's carried less, the discontinued Ruger Hawkeye All Weather, or any one of the 5R Remingtons.

Maybe a 7.62x39 if you never plan to shoot more than a couple hundred yards and you don't need extreme accuracy. This would make a great plinker, occasional hunter. CZ 527 Carbine with the mini-mauser action might be my choice for something to just carry around in the woods, shoot some rocks or steel, paper targets with easily seen holes, pop an occasional coyote, hog, deer, or other varmint at reasonably short range.
Plinking ammo is as cheap as it gets in a center fire. And steel cased soft point hunting ammo is also inexpensive.
I think this might be about as much fun as you could have without thinking about it too much.
A lever action 30-30 would also fit most of this description, except the bolt action part.

More kick and noise. And more power than you need for what you described.

On a moderate scale there's the 6.5 Creedmoor, or the 6.5x55. But for readiliy available and reasonably priced nice used rifles, something like a Remington 700 BDL in .270, .308, or 30-06.

Another choice, if you don't mind ordering your ammo, or if you want to load your own, and something that fits well with a nice classic blued and walnut rifle like a Sako or a Featherweight Model 70, or a CZ550 Full Stock, any of which would make for a nice heirloom type rifle in a 6.5x55 Swede. A pretty mild yet powerful and historically accurate round.
I'd surely put one of these near the top of a one bolt action battery with no specific purpose other than having a cool rifle that would never go out of style and could be used for just about anything.



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A .243 in your favorite brand.

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Look a bunch over at a shop, find one you like, and go with it. Almost difficult these days to find a really bad new rifle(contrary to what some people would have you believe), personally, I'm a big Mauser 98 fan, as far as new rifles go, I have a Winchester M70 that I am quite fond of.

For what you described, I'd go with a 22-250 or maybe a .243. The current trendy answer would be (just threw up in my mouth a little bit) one of the Creedmoor's 6.5 or 6.


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Remington 700. CDL. In 25-06


I would choose a Win model 70, but a 25-06 is a great choice for deer and coyotes.

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Check the regulations where you live. Many places do not allow anything under .24 cal for deer hunting

That being said, I’d get a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 6.5 Creedmoor (first choice) or .243 Win and feel great about it.

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Originally Posted by seattlesetters
Check the regulations where you live. Many places do not allow anything under .24 cal for deer hunting

That being said, I’d get a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 6.5 Creedmoor (first choice) or .243 Win and feel great about it.

And some of those places don't allow carrying a .24 or over caliber rifle unless you have a deer tag.

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For me, a lifelong rifle loony, my last owned rifle will be this pre-64 M70 30-06 SPRG - it'll do anything I'll ever need to do again (and more). If I was not a lifelong loony I'd buy what many, many of the young guys I see are buying now - a Ruger American in 6.5 Creedmore - seems to be the new thing. I'll not be getting one because I have too many now. Odessa

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I had a steyr pro hunter .243. Traded it for other guns before I shot it too much. Still have some 243 ammo somewhere. But I might consider 308, 0r 270 , or 223 some popular rounds.

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I had a steyr pro hunter .243. Traded it for other guns before I shot it too much. Still have some 243 ammo somewhere. But I might consider 308, 0r 270 , or 223 some popular rounds this time.

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I had a steyr pro hunter .243. Traded it for other guns before I shot it too much. Still have some 243 ammo somewhere. But I might consider 308, 0r 270 , or 223 some popular rounds.

If you ever change your mind about only shooting coyotes, then you might consider that in your cartridge selection. Some of the mid level calibers like 6.5 Creedmore,.270, 7mm-08 and .308 would have you well covered without excessive recoil and are widely available. The hunting bug just might grab you. Rifle choice is highly subjective. Some prefer utilitarian function only while others prefer more classic blued steel and handsome wood stocks. My first bolt action I bought was with the thought of a do-it-all go anywhere rifle. With that in mind I bought a Ruger M77 MII stainless laminate .30-06. It's left handed and choices are more limited. My second bolt action I bought because I wanted a classic rifle. Again, with choices limited I bought a New Haven classic Winchester Model 70 Featherweight .300 WSM. It could serve as a all-rounder as well, but would need a little more care in hostile environments like Alaska and the wet states. I have more lever actions than bolts.

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Originally Posted by LeakyWaders
Since you don't seem to own any rifles...I would recommend a model 70 in 7mm08. It's a classic action in a reliable caliber that won't kick too much. A great set-up for a novice and someone with a safe full of rifles too.


I also like that idea. A Tikka t3x superlite would also work very well....


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I have a 7mm-08 too. It a joy to shoot.

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Look at the Blaser R8. Barrels and calibers can be interchanged without any gunsmithing which gives huge versatility for the basic platform. Start with a .30/06 barrel and go from there.

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Get yourself a Rem 700 in 6.5 Creedmoor. In the future, as funds permit, drop it in a McMillan (or whatever) stock. Mount a Leupold 3-9x40 with the LR Duplex, or a 3.5-10x40 with the B&C reticle, in x-low Talley Lightweights. Put a Butler Creek Mountain Sling on it. Go forth and shoot... thank me later 😉


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The OP stated that he would want such a rifle to kill coyotes, and if the need arose, he'd shoot deer for the meat. That pretty much narrows it down.

Since this is a thread about bolt action rifles, my choice would be a Remington 700 or 7 in 243. The 243 might be the best coyote cartridge out there, and it will kill any deer that ever walked. You could go to a bigger caliber, but why.......you don't need it for coyotes, and you don't need it for deer. If you like short, lightweight rifles, you can get a 243 in one of those. If you want a heavy barrel rifle, same thing.

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I've not owned a Kimber, and likely will not due to all the issues folks have. I certainly would not recommend one as a first rifle, as was suggested in an earlier post. Too much of a chance for issues for a new shooter.


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The OP stated that he would want such a rifle to kill coyotes, and if the need arose, he'd shoot deer for the meat. That pretty much narrows it down.

Since this is a thread about bolt action rifles, my choice would be a Remington 700 or 7 in 243. The 243 might be the best coyote cartridge out there, and it will kill any deer that ever walked. You could go to a bigger caliber, but why.......you don't need it for coyotes, and you don't need it for deer. If you like short, lightweight rifles, you can get a 243 in one of those. If you want a heavy barrel rifle, same thing.
Lots cheaper to practice with a .223 and barrel life will be 4 x longer than a .243. A .223 will kill any deer or coyote that ever walked if you put a good bullet where it belongs.

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IF op can legally use a .223 for deer... still hasn’t said what state.

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True enough, but it is legal in most states.

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For me, if I could only have one bolt action, it would be my Tikka T3x stainless in .300 Win. I think I’d have pretty much everything covered from North America to African plains game.

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For coyotes and deer the 243 would be about perfect, but you could look into the 6mm Remington, 25-06 or 257 Roberts as well. If you plan to be a fair weather hunter/ shooter I’d recommend a nice wooden stocked Remington 700 BDL or CDL, a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight or Ruger 77. If you want something a little more durable to the conditions you may encounter outside, stick with the same models but look for ones with a synthetic stock and stainless barrel.

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. A .223 will kill any deer or coyote that ever walked if you put a GOOD BULLET where it belongs.


And therein lies the rub.

I have killed deer and coyotes both with a 223, as well as a 243. Yes, the 223 will easily kill both, and yes, the 223 is much cheaper to shoot. But, any way you cut it, the 243 is a better choice for either, and I say that even though I use a 223 for coyotes far more than I do the 243. You can walk into just about any place that sells ammo and buy 243 ammo loaded with good deer bullets, bit it's not always the case trying to find 223 ammo loaded with good bullets for deer.

Now, if I could have only one centerfire cartridge, and I didn't have to be concerned about shooting dangerous animals, it would be a 223. I am confident enough in my shooting abilities to kill whatever I would need to with it. I reload, and know which bullets are the best choice for a certain scenario, and I know what factory ammo is as well. Not everyone does though, and if you shoot enough deer with a FMJ 223, or a 50 grain VMax, failures will occur.

I love the 223, but there are better choices for deer sized game, and if there is a chance that a shooter will use his rifle for that, then I'd advise them to use something else.

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I have both, like both and have killed a pile of deer and varmints with both over the past 35 years. That said, if I were only going to have one it would undoubtedly be a fast twist .223. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

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IF op can legally use a .223 for deer... still hasn’t said what state.


Going off the .243 legality issues in some states just simply do a 6x45
It kills deer too and is easy on the wallet and shoulder.


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IF op can legally use a .223 for deer... still hasn’t said what state.

My current state only allow hunting deer with a shotgun.

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IF op can legally use a .223 for deer... still hasn’t said what state.

My current state only allow hunting deer with a shotgun.


In that case, and since deer hunting was only a possibility, not a requirement, I'd recommend a fast-twist .223 all day. Love 6mms, but barrel life is a fraction of the .223s (factory 6s, anyway), and ammo and components pricier. Oodles of rifles to choose from too, including some that are scaled nicely to fit the little cartridge.

FWIW, if I were limited to one rifle, it would be an FN Mauser of some sort, probably a .270, no doubt about it. That's for me, not anyone else.


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I’m firmly in the Tikka camp. I currently load for 4 Tikkas in .223, one 1-10” (bought used from shortactionsmoker, thanks again) T3 stainless, 2 1-8” T3 Superlites, and 1 1-8” T3 Varmint stainless. All four shoot 50 gr Ballistic Tip Varmint circa 3400 FPS at sub-.5” accuracy.

If I could find another T3 1-8” or 10” at a decent price I’d buy it. My brother, his boy, and I were shooting marmots a couple of weeks ago out to 500 yards. Humbling accuracy.




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Originally Posted by iviax
Guys, I currently don't own any bolt action rifle. And I have been thinking of getting one in the future. I can only afford one, a good one I assume. So what should I get?

I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities.

I gathered some info online, people praised Winchester 70 pre 64, Remington 700 police or 5R, Steyr...
But I believe some of you have a lot more experience and would be able to point a direction for me.

Thanks!
...............................Good question and you get many answers. May I suggest a different approach. Since you only seek one rifle, then get that one rifle that is the most perfect for you, which will best fill YOUR needs and a rifle that best fills the priorities that you are looking for in a rifle.

First. Pick a cartridge or make a short list of cartridges that will best suit your needs.....Second. What preferences are you looking for in a rifle? CRF action or push fed? 3 position safety or 2 position push type? Degree of bolt lift? Detachable box magazine or spring type? Straight stock or Monte Carlo style? Traditional wood or other stock material? Stainless or blued barrel? Barrel length? Low price point? High price point? What priorities are most important?............Opinions from others is all well and good. Which rifle you get should depend on what rifle is the most perfect for you.....................PRIORITIZ'N


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If that was the limit for me, and I could only buy 1, I'd buy a Winchester M70 in 30-06.

If I can make my own rifle it would be the same action or a 98 Mauser, also in 30-06.

The 30-06 is now 112 years old, but I do not believe there has been another cartridge invented yet that covers as many applications as well as the grand old 30-06.

Others are a bit better in certain specialties but if you want "one gun" you should avoid a specialty caliber and get a general purpose caliber. That mission statement my friend, is best covered with a 30-06.

It will do everything a rifle needs to do, with about 75% of the field covered with excellence and 25% covered antiquity.

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FWIW IMO the OP's parameters really lend themselves to a 7-08 or 6.5 Creedmore ( my 6.5's are in a Swede though ) for a do all go anywhere rifle the deeper into geezerhood I get. The Bolt Action Rifle otoh is a tossup more dependent on his budget, with the obvious 1st set of choices in budget guns dominated by the Ruger American (uggh), and Howa 1500's & several others at the under $4/$500 price points. I started out in the late 1960's with a quality 243 as a wedding gift and learned to shoot with it, but soon moved to a 270 and never regretted it hunting mostly in Texas, and have had at least one ever since. Better bullets today have solved most of my issues with the 243's on game performance, but in a short case caliber there are now better cartridges like the ones posted above, and the OP can't go wrong with the parent case caliber, as the 308 is solid choice too.. In the mid price point range of $500 to $800 I favor Tikka's, Winchester M70's or Ruger 77's, but have little love from personal history for the Big Green or Savage guns. Of the dozens of hunting rifles I have owned, only the Tikka 695's & T3's have been dependably simple Plug and Play rifles.

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Verhoositz: I would say you nailed it for the OP. 6.5 Creed cartridge in a Tikka would be a great start. From what dang near everybody says who owns a Tikka, they shoot great out of the box...Always nice when your first rifle purchased exceeds expectations and doesn’t leave a guy with a bruised wallet...For the OP. My vote is a Tikka in 6.5 Creedmore...😎


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IF op can legally use a .223 for deer... still hasn’t said what state.

My current state only allow hunting deer with a shotgun.



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OP says he's only gonna buy one rifle...

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Yes guys, only one bolt action rifle I am planning to get. I pretty much have one firearm in each category except the full auto stuff. To be honest, for coyotes hunting, I probably will just use my ar15. Deer hunt is different though, you can’t disrespect a deer with “assault rifle”...

Btw, couple weeks ago, someone was selling a kimber mountain ascent 2017, green stock, silver color leupold scope I think. Where did his post go?
I found his gun on gun broker only “watched” it online. Then my days got busy and didn’t even check in and the auction was gone too. How does it compare to kimber classic select?

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i do know guys who only buy one rifle...


Crazy talk...Only one rifle? That's like looking at a harem of hot women, all wanting to go home with you, and you say, "Nah"....I just want one girl....Grin!
















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Originally Posted by iviax
Yes guys, only one bolt action rifle I am planning to get. I pretty much have one firearm in each category except the full auto stuff. To be honest, for coyotes hunting, I probably will just use my ar15. Deer hunt is different though, you can’t disrespect a deer with “assault rifle”...

Btw, couple weeks ago, someone was selling a kimber mountain ascent 2017, green stock, silver color leopard scope I think. Where did his post go?
I found his gun on gun broker only “watched” it online. Then my days got busy and didn’t even check in and the auction was gone too. How does it compare to kimber classic select?



If it’s primarily deer, look at the Tikka T3 Lite Stainless in 7mm-08. All the punch you need, very little recoil. I kill deer and elk with mine.




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Originally Posted by iviax
Yes guys, only one bolt action rifle I am planning to get. I pretty much have one firearm in each category except the full auto stuff. To be honest, for coyotes hunting, I probably will just use my ar15. Deer hunt is different though, you can’t disrespect a deer with “assault rifle”...

Btw, couple weeks ago, someone was selling a kimber mountain ascent 2017, green stock, silver color leopard scope I think. Where did his post go?
I found his gun on gun broker only “watched” it online. Then my days got busy and didn’t even check in and the auction was gone too. How does it compare to kimber classic select?

I'm not aware of any such things as AR15 assault rifles or leopard scopes...

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Yes guys, only one bolt action rifle I am planning to get. I pretty much have one firearm in each category except the full auto stuff. To be honest, for coyotes hunting, I probably will just use my ar15. Deer hunt is different though, you can’t disrespect a deer with “assault rifle”...

Btw, couple weeks ago, someone was selling a kimber mountain ascent 2017, green stock, silver color leopard scope I think. Where did his post go?
I found his gun on gun broker only “watched” it online. Then my days got busy and didn’t even check in and the auction was gone too. How does it compare to kimber classic select?

I'm not aware of any such things as AR15 assault rifles or leopard scopes...



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All he’s hunting is deer. Why the elk cartridge recommendations?





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Not even hunting deer with a rifle. No reason to go any bigger than .223, and the fun factor and round count will be much higher with a .223 than a bigger rifle...

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[quote=Pharmseller]All he’s hunting is deer. Why the elk cartridge recommendations?

Well I guess that “if” you’ve only got one rifle, then likely will “only” have one caliber.....why not get one of the best “all around calibers” ? Good for everything from “small” big game (even works on coyotes pretty effectively) up to and thru moose and bear. Today, it’s only deer, tomorrow....? memtb








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I’m thinking that if something changes in life and a guy finds himself planning an out-of-state elk hunt, grabbing another rifle isn’t too much of a problem.

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I’m thinking that if something changes in life and a guy finds himself planning an out-of-state elk hunt, grabbing another rifle isn’t too much of a problem.


Correctamundo, in both posts. No brainer, really. My second choice would be a 6.5 Grendel for which there's some really cheap ammo and has considerable utility, plus it's very powder-thrifty.


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Tikka,
6.5 Creed, or 7-08.
Good gun, lightweight, good cost/quality ratio.
Flat shooting cartridges, light recoil, reasonably available and cost ammo.
More than enough for coyote, perfect for deer.

Or, use a 270 for easier available and cheaper (on sale) ammo.


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I hunt elk so instead of 270 it be 30/06 for one rifle only.. But I do love my 270 for deer.


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[quote-Pharmseller]All he’s hunting is deer. Why the elk cartridge recommendations?

Well I guess that “if” you’ve only got one rifle, then likely will “only” have one caliber.....why not get one of the best “all around calibers” ?
Good for everything from “small” big game (even works on coyotes pretty effectively) up to and thru moose and bear.
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Why not .375H&H then?....cause it 'could' be elk tomorrow and cape buffalo a week later... whistle

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Normally, I'm a model 70 fan.....and still am....but this Howa is something to take notice of.....I recommend them highly.

But if you could only have one bolt action rifle, will you still choose howa?


If I could have only 'one' Id have no problem with a Howa.
If i wanted[not needed] to spend more on a push feed ...Id get a Borden action barrelled up!
and screw it to B&C stock just to rattle some mcMilan sycophants on the campfire... grin

chamber would be 7mm Mag....cause it.. 'recoils like 30/06 and hits like 300mag'...with ammo
just a cheap and available as the gay .270


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IMHO...7RM does not recoil like 06. has little more pop to it.


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[quote-Pharmseller]All he’s hunting is deer. Why the elk cartridge recommendations?

Well I guess that “if” you’ve only got one rifle, then likely will “only” have one caliber.....why not get one of the best “all around calibers” ?
Good for everything from “small” big game (even works on coyotes pretty effectively) up to and thru moose and bear.
Today, it’s only deer, tomorrow....? memtb


Why not .375H&H then?....cause it 'could' be elk tomorrow and cape buffalo a week later... whistle

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Originally Posted by vapodog

Normally, I'm a model 70 fan.....and still am....but this Howa is something to take notice of.....I recommend them highly.

But if you could only have one bolt action rifle, will you still choose howa?


If I could have only 'one' Id have no problem with a Howa.
If i wanted[not needed] to spend more on a push feed ...Id get a Borden action barrelled up!
and screw it to B&C stock just to rattle some mcMilan sycophants on the campfire... grin

chamber would be 7mm Mag....cause it.. 'recoils like 30/06 and hits like 300mag'...with ammo
just a cheap and available as the gay .270


You sir.....are indeed correct! I was narrow-minded and limited the OP to North America. Your suggestion is the reason I bought a .375H&H in the early ‘80’s. My “only” rifle caliber ever since.... though in ‘89 stepped up to a lightweight (relatively) .375 AI. Shoots as flat or flatter than the aforementioned.338 WM, and is good for Africa! 🙂
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Too open ended. When I got my first rifle, I handled several in a gun shop and did a mental coin toss. I later sold that because it was a bit much for my first or for deer. Weight and caliber. Then I did have deer hunting as a specific goal. The OP has NO GOAL, or stated purpose other than owning a bolt actions. Stay away from odd ball rounds like 22 hornet, bee zipper, what ever.

What I like? For small, easy to shoot, cost of ammo, good ammo selection and good looks. CZ527 carbine or american in 223. Mount a medium size (aka practical) size scope like a 3-9x compact or worse case a 4-12x. Another way to go is cz527 in euro varmint for a heavier gun to shoot at the club of for actual long hours of varmint shooting and that can be topped with a 6-18x. Again the 223 is a good round to enjoy and be used to good effect.

Next up is the deer rifle and here I like rounds like 7mm-08 first choice, and 6.5mm second. Th 243 is a sweet first deer rifle and a nice step up from 223 while still mild and pleasant for a first gun. All these are what I call, medium length actions. In this space I like Tikka with a wood stock. Or your taste might run toward Tikka in synthetic. Winchester is a bit haevy in this class of ctg. The Howa is not to my taste. The CZ is also a bit heavy in the mediums. I love Kimber and certain Sako (carbon fiber) if you have the budget. The big problem is we dont know what you want this rifle for. If you do not hunt then you are free to select a little heavier gun and then CZ and Winchester offers some seriously good looking rifles. I dont care so much for Remington these days. Savage seems ok, but again, not crazy about the looks. There is that 308 at cabelas that everyone raves about out. They all shoot.

Moving up is 30-06 and larger (375HH) and here the various Winchester M70 really stand out as appropriate in weight and good Japanese quality. I dont think these bigger guns are a good place to start. Same with the 98 in 06. Too much gun. I own various Model 70 from New Haven (control feed) and Japan - great guns.

Last step in the progression is the CZ550 magnum that can be had in 375HH up to 505 Gibbs. A non starter for a first bolt rifle.

Funny about price, if you can only afford ONE good one, then you could afford two less costly rifles like savage. What is good? Functional or does style enter into the picture at all? And what is style? This is an impossible post to deal with.

I go back to the beginning. Caliber 223 , rifle CZ527. There will be no regrets.

For a little bigger with 'possible' hunting later, 7mm-08, 6.5cm or 243 in Kimber or Sako (or Tikka). One gun will not do it all. You need to decide if you are going to carry this all day or shoot at a club. A rifle that is 'good' for everything is really good for nothing. That concept died in the 1960's

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To bad the OP did not ask about buying his first bolt rifle with a, long term goal to have a 3 rifle battery to include a maximum of hunting scenarios.

Then we could propose starting at the small end and building toward something like: 223, 7mm08, 375HH (CZ, Kimber, Winchester)


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If I could have 1 it would be a 30-06 Walnut and Blued steel.. For your criteria. Coyotes maybe a deer. 243, 22-250 ,or 223, You didn't say whether you liked wood or plastic, stainless, matte or blued steel. Price range?

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There's the rub, as they say. The OP doesn't appear at this point to know quite what he wants to do with it, so answers will be all over the place, reflecting what others like to do, as well as their tastes. My idea is that he should get something best suited for what he's doing now, then deal with future needs as they come. A fast-twist .223 in the platform that he likes or that has features useful to him as regards magazines, sighting options etc will do lots of stuff, won't beat him up, be cheap to shoot, and last a very long time. A bonus is that very nearly every bolt action made can be had so chambered.


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Originally Posted by iviax
Guys, I currently don't own any bolt action rifle. And I have been thinking of getting one in the future. I can only afford one, a good one I assume. So what should I get?

I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities.

I gathered some info online, people praised Winchester 70 pre 64, Remington 700 police or 5R, Steyr...
But I believe some of you have a lot more experience and would be able to point a direction for me.

Thanks!


I would wait until you decide what you are going to do before buying. As it is, with no real firm idea what you intend to use it for, whatever you choose is more likely to be wrong than right. If you were not stuck on just buying one, then I'd suggest something to practice with to gain familiarity so that when the time does come, you've got a good foundation. A good .223 or .308 bolt action might be a good choice because of the variety of ammo availability if you're not planning to reload. That's doesn't seem to be what you're asking, so my suggestion is to set aside money now to be spent when you have a more firm grasp on your actual need.

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It’s pretty obvious most haven’t read the OP’s post... just read the title and replied. Typical 24hr thread... smile


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Just keeping it simple, a one-rifle purchase, for a neophyte, I'd suggest a Ruger Hawkeye in whatever a new-ish shooter thinks is good enough, probably the 6.5 Creedmoor or 7mm/08, not much recoil, plenty enough for deer, good for coyote, dead simple to operate, and probably not needing a doggoned thing except mounting and zero-ing a decent scope.

Seems like everyone is overthinking this.


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Originally Posted by Brad
It’s pretty obvious most haven’t read the OP’s post... just read the title and replied. Typical 24hr thread... smile


He asked a question in his title. Many answered his question. In his post he went away from his question; in a way.


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It’s pretty obvious most haven’t read the OP’s post... just read the title and replied. Typical 24hr thread... smile


He asked a question in his title. Many answered his question. In his post he went away from his question; in a way.


That’s pretty stupid...


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The “hunting game” encompasses a pretty large arena. What game and what areas of the country did you have in mind?


The only animal I would kill is the coyote but I will keep deer in mind just in case I need meat.


Deer, coyote and long range targets - I would gear up with a long range deer rifle then - 6.5 CM or 6.5/284. Any of the standard rifles will be good - Rem 700, Win 70, X bolt, Tikka or Ruger american

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If I could only have one bolt action rifle, and I might hunt or shoot long range in the future but I don't currently. Up to/including deer/coyotes.

I would call Dakota and get a Model 76 Classic. Chambered in something between 223 and 30-06. A 243, 25-06, etc. would likely be leading candidates.

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I suggest getting to a large gun store so that you can handle several different makes. There are subtle but important differences in how they "feel"... Everyone is different too... no way to know ahead of time what will suit you best. I would also suggest planning to spend as much if not more on a good quality scope.... a small to midsize optic with no more that 10 X at the top end.


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A 223? what type of game are you going to hunt with that? Gofer soup?

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A 223? what type of game are you going to hunt with that? Gofer soup?


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Originally Posted by Brad
It’s pretty obvious most haven’t read the OP’s post... just read the title and replied. Typical 24hr thread... smile


I read it.

Then decided to go off on my little tangent anyway...


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It’s pretty obvious most haven’t read the OP’s post... just read the title and replied. Typical 24hr thread... smile


I read it.

Then decided to go off on my little tangent anyway...


LOL, fair enough. Doing something with awareness is different than doing it without.

But I bet you gave your teachers fits in grade school grin


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"I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities. "

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A 223? what type of game are you going to hunt with that? Gofer soup?


If you are not throwing out bait and while a .22-250 isn’t a bolt rifle, for Deer it is the cartridge I would choose if I could only have one. If I wanted to go big, it would be a Swift.


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If I was hunting with a centerfire rifle it will be for larger game. I know that there is a place for small caliber high power. It is not on my to do list. There are many calibers that skirt the edges. I want one that will work for everything. 30-06, 308 would be high on my list.

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No question in my mind. I would go the a LGS and look for a used 700 in either 06, or 270. Lots of reasons...used 700`s can be had for $400 or less, here anyway, in either ADL or BDL. Ammo is available everywhere, some cheap, and you could handle anything in NA. The 700 has an endless supply of aftermarket parts to fit any whim or need. Most of the 2nd hand guns are little used, so IME, you can find some good ones. And the 700 is American made.
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Originally Posted by MM879
If I was hunting with a centerfire rifle it will be for larger game. I know that there is a place for small caliber high power. It is not on my to do list. There are many calibers that skirt the edges. I want one that will work for everything. 30-06, 308 would be high on my list.




I could easily go along with a .308W.


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If I were only to have one centerfire rifle it would get 10 times more use on varmints than deer. Deer and black bear is all the big game we have here and I don't have any reservations about shooting/killing either one with a good bullet from a .223. I'm not ever going to be rich enough to trot all over the country hunting big game so that would do me fine.

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This is a nice rifle that I wouldn't mind owning. Thinkin it's a Annie. I guess if the range was close enough it would be fine for coyotes and small meat deer, and definitely up to the task of perforating paper out to a couple hundred yards.

Following this lead, move up the next step in range to a Sako Vixen in .222.

Then, a little more range and versatility. Slumming a bit, but another super short action length with a 1:8 twist X-Bolt in 223

I'd skip over the fast 22's, but I'm sure a case could be made for them.

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Originally Posted by iviax
Guys, I currently don't own any bolt action rifle. And I have been thinking of getting one in the future. I can only afford one, a good one I assume. So what should I get?

I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities.

I gathered some info online, people praised Winchester 70 pre 64, Remington 700 police or 5R, Steyr...
But I believe some of you have a lot more experience and would be able to point a direction for me.

Thanks!

I have a Steyr Scout in .308.

Depending on how it is scoped, one can do almost anything with this rifle. Great trigger right out of the box and very accurate as well.

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If I successfully sell one of my pistols this coming Wednesday, I will be looking into rifles soon.
I probably should have grabbed that pre-64 model 70 with zeiss scope for $2000 bucks... lol

When I was seriously considering a 223, my friends believe my Ar15 can do anything a bolt action rifle can do in my case. the struggling is real.

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Originally Posted by mrmarklin


I have a Steyr Scout in .308.

Depending on how it is scoped, one can do almost anything with this rifle. Great trigger right out of the box and very accurate as well.


I am guessing 4x scope is normal for the scout but my eyesight is not so good, I need 9x for 100 yards.

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Savage 340 in 30-30...good griz/long range gun fo' sho

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Winchester model 70 featherweight in 280rem

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Kinda late to the party. Lots of good suggestions for rifles and cartridges have been posted and, a few "unbiased" opinions. Nahh...we all have our favorites or at least opinions on what is best for our use and certainly what we like best.

I think I'd ask a couple questions first. From an inveterate handloader the first is, do you handload and if so how seriously do you handload? Second is how much money do you want to spend? The third I'm guessing isn't as important to the OP as it is to me. Do you prefer "new and shiny" or "old and classic"? For grins and giggles a fourth might be how romantically inclined are you?

Most rifles made in the last 50 years are capable of what you mention and, especially if you're a fairly serious handloader and gun crank. If not, probably a newer rifle in a commonly available, popular cartridge is more suitable. I don't believe anyone would doubt there's been a LOT more development put into the 6.5 Creedmoor than the 6.5 Swede, at least in this country.

New(er) vs. classic. That has to be a matter of taste. I'd take a Mauser sporter from pre-WWI onward to the beginning of WWII or, a Mannlicher/Schoenauer from 1903 or any of the successive models over anything post-WWII from any country. Virtually any of the cartridges chambered in any those rifles would be adequate for my purposes.

It seems to me that today so many rifles are exceptionally accurate as compared to 50 years ago that one doesn't have to spend a ton of money to get an accurate rifle. One or the other might require a few tweaks, from what I read, but nothing like what might needed to have been done 30-50 years ago. As happily stuck in the old days as I am only a fool would deny that accuracy has improved immensely. Soo...how much money needs to be spent seems to depend on how nice a rifle you want. Commenting purely from what I read, (I haven't bought a "new" rifle in.....I don't remember for certain, 20-30 years at least), it appears for around $1000 a fella can get an accurate rifle and are pretty darn good scope chambered in a popular, common cartridge for which accurate factory ammo is available. For some classic rifles, that same $1000 will get you in the door to browse....although there is some classic rifle "buys" if a fella is patient and checks sources frequently.

The OP's comments and question are pretty open to interpretation and, that's understandable. If a fella doesn't know or hasn't made up his mind about something.....where else would he be? I know when I'm rifle shopping most of the time I'm casting about for something that catches my eye or I find interesting. My advice is find and buy the one that puts the biggest smile on your face....and everything else can go hang.


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Originally Posted by iviax
Guys, I currently don't own any bolt action rifle. And I have been thinking of getting one in the future. I can only afford one, a good one I assume. So what should I get?

I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities.

I gathered some info online, people praised Winchester 70 pre 64, Remington 700 police or 5R, Steyr...
But I believe some of you have a lot more experience and would be able to point a direction for me.

Thanks!


I would wait until you decide what you are going to do before buying. As it is, with no real firm idea what you intend to use it for, whatever you choose is more likely to be wrong than right. If you were not stuck on just buying one, then I'd suggest something to practice with to gain familiarity so that when the time does come, you've got a good foundation. A good .223 or .308 bolt action might be a good choice because of the variety of ammo availability if you're not planning to reload. That's doesn't seem to be what you're asking, so my suggestion is to set aside money now to be spent when you have a more firm grasp on your actual need.

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Hell yes! If only one I would have to answer a military 98 with the military trigger.


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The very idea is stupid!!!!! When I started hunting 60 years ago I had more than one bolt action,,


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My recomendation would be...
Pre 64 mod 70 fW....standard weight is just too heavy....chambered in 30-06. Does it all pretty well
A close second would be an L61 R Sako....in again 30-06

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I will modify my above post.

For NA - M98 in .30-06

Going worldwide, M98 in .375 H&H


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Originally Posted by las
I will modify my above post.

For NA - M98 in .30-06

Going worldwide, M98 in .375 H&H



Will the .375 H&H work for the OP's desire to have a rifle that is capable of long range pursuits?



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Well after rereading the original post as Brad suggested I would modify my recommendation of a model 70 Feather Weight in 30-06 to the same rifle in 6.5x55, 260 Remington, or 257 Roberts. Now that's for the new model Feather Weight, like them better than the pre 64, but, that's another discussion and opinion.
So Brad I just combined the Title of and the post.

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If I were limited to one rifle for all North American big game hunting, it'd be of recent manufacture comprised of best components. I'd want it to be the product of computer aided manufacturing thus removing human error. It'd be chambered in .280 Rem, '06, .308 Win, or .270 Win.

Having only one rifle means no back-up. Hence, it has to be 100% reliable. It'd have to be extremely accurate.

There are many rifles that would fill my requirements. I'd probably begin with Sako. It advertises MOA with a 5-shot group. I've yet to read negatives about Sako. Montana Rifle Company would deserve a look.

I think that control round feed is more marketing than utility. I know others have differing opinions.

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I guess I have only one more requirement. Blue steel and wood stocks.

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If I were limited to one rifle for all North American big game hunting, it'd be of recent manufacture comprised of best components. I'd want it to be the product of computer aided manufacturing thus removing human error. It'd be chambered in .280 Rem, '06, .308 Win, or .270 Win.

Having only one rifle means no back-up. Hence, it has to be 100% reliable. It'd have to be extremely accurate.

There are many rifles that would fill my requirements. I'd probably begin with Sako. It advertises MOA with a 5-shot group. I've yet to read negatives about Sako. Montana Rifle Company would deserve a look.

I think that control round feed is more marketing than utility. I know others have differing opinions.


I'd go for a Sako, too. A .270, .25-06 or .280 would do.
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I guess I have only one more requirement. Blue steel and wood stocks.



I like your style.

Me too: blued steel & real wood.

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Hi RGK,

You have exceptional knowledge of rifles.

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Hi RGK,

You have exceptional knowledge of rifles.


Thanks! I like the Montana 99, too. This one is a boring .30-06.
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Guys, I want to give an update of my current situation.

I purchased a Winchester model 70 (30-06) recently. It was made in 1963. Someone also cut the stock and put a pad on it. Yes, I know, it's stupid but that's someone before the seller who did it.



I probably will need ring base and rings, a scope for it soon. I am always a Leupold fan. I might also be looking for a stock for it if the current stock sucks. Any suggestion?



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As long as the LOP is okay with you, take it out and shoot it. Even a not-quite-perfect Pre 64 Model 70 is better than 90% of the rifles available today, IMO.
Bases and rings are generally pretty easy to find along with Leupold scopes. Can't hardly walk down the street around here without tripping over one....
I'm betting it is still a shooter. I noticed you didn't mention what it is chambered for? Any other information you're holding out on us?

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As long as the LOP is okay with you, take it out and shoot it. Even a not-quite-perfect Pre 64 Model 70 is better than 90% of the rifles available today, IMO.
Bases and rings are generally pretty easy to find along with Leupold scopes. Can't hardly walk down the street around here without tripping over one....
I'm betting it is still a shooter. I noticed you didn't mention what it is chambered for? Any other information you're holding out on us?

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Oh, sorry, it's 30-06


Do you think the base and rings in this ads will fit the Leupold scope?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...bases-and-redfield-rings-pre-64-model-70

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If I could keep only one of the rifles I currently own, I think (at the moment) I would choose my pre-64 70 in .264 Win Mag. Sometimes I think it might be the Classic Super Grade in .280...other times the custom Model Seven in 6mm Remington. If I was going to acquire something new to be my only rifle, it might be a Barrett Fieldcraft in 6.5x55...it's not something I like to ponder, though. Got too many I like.


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30-06 is as good as it gets for all around hunting and target shooting . The problem I've had , maybe looking in the wrong places , is none of the Remington , Savages , or 03's will perform well unless I hand load .
It is nice to have a rifle that if times gets hard , it will shoot acceptable with most ammo . They are rare , but they are out there . But I have been through a pile of them over the years and have only two rifles that will shoot just about anything I feed it into 1 1/2" -2" groups and stuff it likes will run 1/2" -1" . Unfortunately they are neither chambered in my favorite caliber , 30-06 .
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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
The very idea is stupid!!!!! When I started hunting 60 years ago I had more than one bolt action,,


Not so stupid.

I only started 36 years ago (1982) and only had one big game legal (Colorado) bolt rifle for the first 20+. Then again, it was a 7mm RM. Used it to shoot coyotes and occasional prairie dogs, too. Did everything I asked of it back then and would have continued to do so.

But the others are fun, too.


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Can't go wrong with a Sako 85 in '06. But, like everyone else here, that's just my opinion.



Your "opinion" might just be fact.

You've coulda expanded your "opinion" to include Sako is the best quality factory production rifle ;-) It woulda been more fact ;-)

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Probably be one of these 2- both 308 winchester. Ammunition for it everywhere, easy to reload for, components are cheap and the caliber/barrel combo lasts forever before accuracy goes south. Mount a nightforce of your choice magnification- I happen to think the 2.5-10x32 is the bomb, and go kill anything you could point it at in NA.

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Reading through this post I can't help but grin at the tens of thousands of $$$ I have spent on rifles the past 40 years and yet.....the best hunter I know uses a 1970's era Remington 788 in 308 win. That gun has almost no bluing on the barreled action and the finish on the birch stock is worn to the core. He put a slip on recoil pad on it and he still has the original 4 power redfield wide field scope on it. He shoots a lot, keeps it very clean, but man that thing is beat up. I guess the old adage is true " beware the man with one gun, he probably knows how to use it"

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I will modify my above post.

For NA - M98 in .30-06

Going worldwide, M98 in .375 H&H



Will the .375 H&H work for the OP's desire to have a rifle that is capable of long range pursuits?



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It would work for me.


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Originally Posted by Trystan
Originally Posted by las
I will modify my above post.

For NA - M98 in .30-06

Going worldwide, M98 in .375 H&H



Will the .375 H&H work for the OP's desire to have a rifle that is capable of long range pursuits?



Trystan

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Originally Posted by las
I will modify my above post.

For NA - M98 in .30-06

Going worldwide, M98 in .375 H&H



Will the .375 H&H work for the OP's desire to have a rifle that is capable of long range pursuits?



Trystan



It depends upon what you consider “long range”! If the 30-06, was your first consideration......the .375 H&H will do just fine. It closely mirrors, the trajectories of 30-06 rounds, with a “wee bit” more bullet! memtb


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Hey Guys!

I absolutely love the Winchester Model 70! Love the quality, love the weight, even love the cut butt pad. smile The action is smooth as butter.
The recoil is nothing more than my 12G shotgun with slugs. Yes, it's a mean kick, but 30-06 won't need the follow-up shots eh?

Just have the pre 64 base and rings installed. Will put a Leupold 4-12x40 on top of it. Bang!
Will report back on its accuracy.

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you've had many suggestions per caliber/cartridge. Find and know the legal minimum of your intended area.

You titled this thread, " If YOU can have only one b a rifle..."

I have several diff brands and types and have had even more and it's a hard decision for me to pick ONE,

PROBABLY if I had to be limited to ONE it would be....

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EITHER one of these. Right -- T 3 Lite SS 270 Win > > > Left -- T3X Lite SS 7mm RM

Considering hunting a variety of places & game, I'd probably pick the 7 Rem Mag.
I don't think that would be best for you & your situation. But I like it.

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Nice pair of rifles Jerry!.....I love me a Tikka Magnum chambered rifle, they are mighty hard to beat.....Hb

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lvlax

you've had many suggestions per caliber/cartridge. Find and know the legal minimum of your intended area.

You titled this thread, " If YOU can have only one b a rifle..."

I have several diff brands and types and have had even more and it's a hard decision for me to pick ONE,

PROBABLY if I had to be limited to ONE it would be....

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EITHER one of these. Right -- T 3 Lite SS 270 Win > > > Left -- T3X Lite SS 7mm RM

Considering hunting a variety of places & game, I'd probably pick the 7 Rem Mag.
I don't think that would be best for you & your situation. But I like it.

Jerry


Jerry, I had bought pre 64 win M70 30-06. I don’t have much hunting and long range shooting needs. So this might just work for me. See the photos above. Nick tikka rifles btw. I thought about it too.

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Originally Posted by VaHillbilly
Nice pair of rifles Jerry!.....I love me a Tikka Magnum chambered rifle, they are mighty hard to beat.....Hb


Thnx Va H & lvlax

I have nice & pretty Wood/Blue rifles in diff cartridges BUT Synthetic & SS can NOT be beat for practicality. IMO

I have a gorgeous stocked rifle.......
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Seriously, that is Whitebird's rifle and the FIRST time I saw the pic I immediately thot of a S_W 1500 (Howa) 30-06 that I HAD. cry


Another nice thing about the T3X 7 Mag is its weight. The 7 Mag weighs ONLY 3 OUNCES more than the T 3 270. smile

I had the same scope on a Rem 700 Syn 7 Mag------ the T3X weighs exactly 1 POUND less than the 700 Syn. smile smile


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Tikka T3s in 7mm Rem Mag can shoot, too.

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Been reading this thread with more than just a passing interest, with the idea of at soon to be 74 and shooting shoulder problems from a related surgery 12 years ago that is beginning to be more than just a pain pill away from resolution...and going down the road to near total downsizing of all the CF rifles and settleing on a single caliber in a couple shooters to finish up with.

Some surprises recently have been discovered in what I can handle recoil wise, that I had always been able to handle with no concerns as I get back into trigger pulling regularly have been an unexpected unpleasant wake up call.

So, Belted Mags for me are a thing of the past and was almost given. Apparently Super Lite rifles are a thing of the past too...as a new T3 SLSwede shooting some old free to me PMC 140's to harvest brass from, popped me like a 6lb 7Rmg & flattened primers to the point that I pulled the rest of the free ammo's bullets and powder. The Tikka shot the ancient ammo into the expected tiny groups but my shoulder told me to "very carefull" from the "lil very sharp bite" that caught me by surprise enough to cause me to think mebbe I had after all these years really developed a torn rotator cuff, as I had been warned about after the surgery that left me with a "frozen shoulder" for a couple years. My M70 270 Sporter with some old max loaded 150's that always shot decently and last was used for zeroing a scope, caused me later to flinch for the 1st time I can remember on a game shot in 50 years of hunting with a 270. A 7lb 375 H&H Sako Fiberclass Carbine was last rifle to make me flinch in the mid '80's.The best surprise however was the new to me M70 XTR 7x57's lack of recoil using fresh Privi 140's to practice with & to harvest the brass from, and now what I'm planning on using this fall, but I hate to hunt with a collector quality rifle.

So what are 'yall's thoughts about the pros and cons of using either a 6.5 Swede, a 6.5 Creedmore....or a 7-08 for everything in Texas....as of right now I'm leaning towards the 7-08 for my last Do All Caliber that had always been the various 270's job, based on the experience with the M70 Fwt 7x57...and using rifles with a gross All Up Weight of the M70 Fwt. at about 7 1/2 - 7 3/4lbs+...OR ... just downloading the M70 270 Sporter to less than max recoil levels and burn up the plentiful on hand supplies as previously planned
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If I were you I think that I would go with the Creedmoor. As much as I love the Swede, you can't hardly find one with a fast enough twist for some of the VLD bullets that are out these days. If that is not a concern, I'd probably go with the Swede. The 7-08 would be a distant runner up. There's nothing wrong with the cartridge, I'm just partial to the 7X57.

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This old blued and walnut Mark II .223 was mostly opposite of what I was looking for. But after looking off and on for a while, just one of those deals that was too good to walk away. And it was new enough to have the hammer forged barrel.
Don't know if this rifle will work out for me. I was looking for stainless synthetic with a tighter twist and got blued and walnut with a 12 twist. And not likely that it will be the only bolt action rifle I'd ever want Maybe it could be my only blued and walnut bolt action, maybe not.

For the OP's listed criteria, you could do worse. It's growing on me.
As far as I know these pencil barrel rifles don't have a stellar rep for accuracy. We'll see if it sticks after I shoot it next weekend. I like the looks and fit more than I thought I would.
The trigger is excellent. Very light and crisp. But with a bit of over travel that I’m not accustomed to.
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Above is a new to me favorite. I it's a 30-06 with a octagon barrel by Hiptmeyer on a mauser.

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Originally Posted by iviax
Guys, I currently don't own any bolt action rifle. And I have been thinking of getting one in the future. I can only afford one, a good one I assume. So what should I get?

I am not in the hunting game or long range shooting at the moment. But for the future, I might want a rifle that is able to do some of those activities.

I gathered some info online, people praised Winchester 70 pre 64, Remington 700 police or 5R, Steyr...
But I believe some of you have a lot more experience and would be able to point a direction for me.

Thanks!


Winchester model 70 in 7mm Mag, stainless/synthetic will do it all now and anything else you have planned for future hunts, 160 gr Accubonds or 175 gr Partitions will cover all bases nicely.

Myself, I'd take the same gun in 375 H&H mag, 270 gr TSX's, 300 gr Accubonds, along with a good 300 gr BBW #13 solid load, those will handle small deer up to and including all game in Africa or anywhere else in the world.


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Originally Posted by verhoositz
Been reading this thread with more than just a passing interest, with the idea of at soon to be 74 and shooting shoulder problems from a related surgery 12 years ago that is beginning to be more than just a pain pill away from resolution...and going down the road to near total downsizing of all the CF rifles and settleing on a single caliber in a couple shooters to finish up with.

Some surprises recently have been discovered in what I can handle recoil wise, that I had always been able to handle with no concerns as I get back into trigger pulling regularly have been an unexpected unpleasant wake up call.

So, Belted Mags for me are a thing of the past and was almost given. Apparently Super Lite rifles are a thing of the past too...as a new T3 SLSwede shooting some old free to me PMC 140's to harvest brass from, popped me like a 6lb 7Rmg & flattened primers to the point that I pulled the rest of the free ammo's bullets and powder. The Tikka shot the ancient ammo into the expected tiny groups but my shoulder told me to "very carefull" from the "lil very sharp bite" that caught me by surprise enough to cause me to think mebbe I had after all these years really developed a torn rotator cuff, as I had been warned about after the surgery that left me with a "frozen shoulder" for a couple years. My M70 270 Sporter with some old max loaded 150's that always shot decently and last was used for zeroing a scope, caused me later to flinch for the 1st time I can remember on a game shot in 50 years of hunting with a 270. A 7lb 375 H&H Sako Fiberclass Carbine was last rifle to make me flinch in the mid '80's.The best surprise however was the new to me M70 XTR 7x57's lack of recoil using fresh Privi 140's to practice with & to harvest the brass from, and now what I'm planning on using this fall, but I

hate to hunt with a collector quality rifle.

So what are 'yall's thoughts about the pros and cons of using either a 6.5 Swede, a 6.5 Creedmore....or a 7-08 for everything in Texas....as of right now I'm leaning towards the 7-08 for my last Do All Caliber that had always been the various 270's job, based on the experience with the M70 Fwt 7x57...and using rifles with a gross All Up Weight of the M70 Fwt. at about 7 1/2 - 7 3/4lbs+...OR ... just downloading the M70 270 Sporter to less than max recoil levels and burn up the plentiful on hand supplies as previously planned
Ron


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I read all of this post. First let me Xplain the 7X57 = Prvi ammo. ...........> edited prIvi TI prvi
I have 2 boxes of Prvi 6.5X55 ammo. Chronoed the 140s at ***2250 fps*** !! --------> edited prIvi TO prvi
I’d ‘suspect your Prvi ammo is MILD.

Now to your question.

You can load EITHER the 7-08 or 270 to the level you are comorfortable shooting.
Unless I’m mistaken you have the 270 and components - but not the 7-08. So IMO it’s up to what YOU want to do. Both will work.

I’m sorry for your complications but they come as WE MATURE.

Good Luck.

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If I could only have 1 bolt action hunting rifle, it would always be the rifle I started out on. A sporterized m1917 enfield chambered in 30-06. These rifles never leave you stranded, always work, always go bang when you want them to... They are heavy, but I don't give a fu ck. Most people would cry if they had to do my job too (too hard and too heavy), but that's my pick...


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
If I could only have 1 bolt action hunting rifle, it would always be the rifle I started out on. A sporterized m1917 enfield chambered in 30-06. These rifles never leave you stranded, always work, always go bang when you want them to... They are heavy, but I don't give a fu ck. Most people would cry if they had to do my job too (too hard and too heavy), but that's my pick...



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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
If I could only have 1 bolt action hunting rifle, it would always be the rifle I started out on. A sporterized m1917 enfield chambered in 30-06. These rifles never leave you stranded, always work, always go bang when you want them to... They are heavy, but I don't give a fu ck. Most people would cry if they had to do my job too (too hard and too heavy), but that's my pick...



I have an all original Eddystone in great shape. This evening I'm going to look at a 1917 sporter 30-06. If I buy it I might send it off to become a 35 Whelen.

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I just put the scope on the rifle and now it weights 9.78lbs


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That’d look real nice in the house, and should flatten a coyote. But I’m too much of a wimp to lug that fatty around for half a day.😂😂😂

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Glad you found what you wanted.

For me, a "one bolt action for everything hunting related" is this:

A stainless Tikka T3 Lite .308 cut to 20" and muzzle brake installed. Talleys and a 2.5-10x24 Nightforce on top.

The stock is a McMillan Edge.



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Probably be one of these 2- both 308 winchester. Ammunition for it everywhere, easy to reload for, components are cheap and the caliber/barrel combo lasts forever before accuracy goes south. Mount a nightforce of your choice magnification- I happen to think the 2.5-10x32 is the bomb, and go kill anything you could point it at in NA.

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Mine was pretty cramped back in 2007 when I took this picture and it is even more so now.

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Originally Posted by DollarShort
That’d look real nice in the house, and should flatten a coyote. But I’m too much of a wimp to lug that fatty around for half a day.😂😂😂


I know it's a bit heavy. My previous Steyr pro hunter is close to that weight as well. This one is at least 30-06... I am not planning on carrying it in the woods though.

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Is that 9.78 LBS or is it 9 lbs and 7.8 Oz. ?

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Originally Posted by iviax
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That’d look real nice in the house, and should flatten a coyote. But I’m too much of a wimp to lug that fatty around for half a day.😂😂😂


I know it's a bit heavy. My previous Steyr pro hunter is close to that weight as well. This one is at least 30-06... I am not planning on carrying it in the woods though.

It’s a beautiful rifle. I was just giving you a hard time. Plus the added weight will be nice from the bench.

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That’d look real nice in the house, and should flatten a coyote. But I’m too much of a wimp to lug that fatty around for half a day.😂😂😂


I know it's a bit heavy. My previous Steyr pro hunter is close to that weight as well. This one is at least 30-06... I am not planning on carrying it in the woods though.

It’s a beautiful rifle. I was just giving you a hard time. Plus the added weight will be nice from the bench.


I know man. I hate the heavyweight for the previous 243 Steyr and almost decided to get a Kimber lightweight. Realistically speaking, I probably will not shoot long range or go deer hunting. So having some weight will make the shooting experience a bit better for me. That padded strap will also help if I want to carry it for a walk.

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Is that 9.78 LBS or is it 9 lbs and 7.8 Oz. ?

Jerry



Sorry, It is 9 lbs and 7.8 Oz.

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