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I haven’t killed anything with this load but I wouldn’t feel undergunned.


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in my independent testing,water filled milk jugs @ 50 yds, the 120 bt didn't do as well as I had wanted it to do. I was hoping it to be as tough as the 7mm 120 bt is purported as being,i shall test it when the weather cools off in the fall. I wanted the 6.5 mm 120 bt to work so much I gave it the benefit of the doubt and re-tested it but alas I has cup and core separation 2 outta 2 times. the 125 partition and the 130 accubond did exceedingly well though through my Tikka 260 rem. I guess it all depends on what you want your bullet to do. I personally like an entrance and an exit,with a lot of energy dumped in between, in my deer just in case I have to blood trail at dark 30. the 120 bt is super accurate in my Tikka but I'm leaning 125 partition or 130 accubond at the moment.
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Buzzards and coyotes get most of ours. We clean a small one once and a while.


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I thought that for a long time until we put a trail cam at my deer camp carcass pile.

It was a bunch of hogs that ate those hog carcasses... blush

Ate them down to the skeletons and in short order. It's amazing what 20-30 hogs can do to a pile of dead hogs...

I'll eat a young one, but after seeing that, most of my pork comes from the grocery store.

Old timers would catch a possum, bring him home, feed him for 2-3 weeks then eat him. Hogs are about as nasty as possums.

And, wear gloves cleaning them for Lepto, Brucellossis and other interesting diseases they carry.

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whitearrow,

Water-filled jugs are cheap and handy, but not particularly indicative of what bullets will do on big game.

The other factor is that ALL "hunting" Ballistic Tips will separate core and jacket. I know this from shooting them in calibers from 6mm to .375 (yes, Nosler briefly made a 260-grain .375 BT) into big game, not water-filled jugs.

Supposedly the core leaving the jacket is a big deal. It used to be, back when big-game bullet jackets were all relatively thin. But it doesn't matter all that much when the jacket weighs as much or more than the core, which is the case with the hunting Ballistic Tips.


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i'll give you that mule deer as what I was really trying to do with my "water-filler jugs" at 50 yds was a absolute worse case scenario. I still like the 6.5mm 120 grain bt but IF the 125 partition or the 130 grain accubond group as well outta my Tikka I will likely go with that due to the possibility of a shoulder punch where I desire a pass thru. I shot a small 90lb deer this yr with said 120 bt a touch back and high but still lung shot and got a pass thru and the deer traveled 50 yds but decent blood trail. but, I'm always nervous if I hit a shoulder knuckle. I hunt thick stuff and if a deer runs 100yds w/o a decent blood trail it probably won't be recovered and I don't like feeding the yotes when I'm in need of sausage.
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Interesting Mule Deer. The 120 BT (7mm08, 2800fps, 120 yd impact) I used on my axis hunt with Ingwe did just that, separated the core from jacket. Nevertheless, they were found right next to each other, and together weighed 80.5 grains. The Axis dropped in his tracks when shot through shoulder, broadside.

I'm really hoping the 6.5 version performs just as well.

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whitearrow,

Actually, a far better "worst-case scenario" test of big game bullets is shooting into a stack of DRY (not wet) newspaper. (Wet newspaper is far more forgiving, one reason many bullet companies used it for years. Just about any bullet ends up as "perfect" mushroom.)

Have tested bullets in a lot of different kinds of media over the years, and when I really want to know what might happen when a bullet hits heavy bone, dry newspaper comes closest.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer

The other factor is that ALL "hunting" Ballistic Tips will separate core and jacket. I know this from shooting them in calibers from 6mm to .375


While they often will separate, one can't say they always do -- and this is gleaned from a couple hundred or so kills of big game with them along with countless media tests. Here are just a few that didn't separate. The photos will continue into a second reply below as individual posts are limited to six images, I believe.


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For clarification, the photo below -- with the blue-tipped BT -- is actually a 7mm 120 grainer. These were a production over-run for an ammo maker that wound up being sold by the Shooter's Pro Shop.

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Bobby,

I didn't say that Ballistic Tip hunting bullets ALWAYS separate core and jacket. I said they all will, meaning they sometimes do.

I primarily wanted to point out that it doesn't really matter whether the jacket separates or not, because the jacket's heavy enough to keep penetrating. I know this from shooting a bunch of them from 6mm to .375 into test media, plus big game from pronghorns to elk, and similar-sized African plains game from springbok to gemsbok.


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Originally Posted by BobbyTomek

For clarification, the photo below -- with the blue-tipped BT -- is actually a 7mm 120 grainer. These were a production over-run for an ammo maker that wound up being sold by the Shooter's Pro Shop.

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Hey Bobby, I bought a bunch of the blue tips years ago, they seem to be a little shorter than the red tips. How is your accuracy?





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Pharmseller -

The ogive on Nosler bullets tends to vary slightly from lot-to-lot, and that's about my only pet peeve with them. The blue tips were the same as some reds I had on the shelf but different than others.

As to accuracy, I have seen no difference at all as long as I keep the distance-to-lands consistent..

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Bobby,

I primarily wanted to point out that it doesn't really matter whether the jacket separates or not, because the jacket's heavy enough to keep penetrating.



I agree. They typically out-penetrate comparable cup-and-core bullets -- or at least have done so in my usage.

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Yep, especially the Ballistic Tips with really heavy jackets, with 2/3 of the weight in the jacket, whch today include those from the 165-grain .30 caliber on up. These act very similarly to Partitions, retaining at least 60% of their weight.


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Yep, especially the Ballistic Tips with really heavy jackets, with 2/3 of the weight in the jacket, whch today include those from the 165-grain .30 caliber on up. These act very similarly to Partitions, retaining at least 60% of their weight.



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This is what a handloaded 168 NBT out of a .30-06 gets you in New Mexico.




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That is an awesome elk, Pharmseller. Congrats!

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I’ll thank you on behalf of my brother, it’s his bull. My handloads, though.




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