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If you're referring to me, I've owned a 6.5 CM rifle since the rifles were first introduced in 2008. I bought the first 6.5 CM rifle I saw which was a Ruger 77 Stainless All Weather rifle. The rife shoots extremely well and there is no doubt that the 6.5 CM is a good cartridge, but it isn't the total answer to everything as some would like others to believe. 2008 was long before every current new owner went gaga over it on the internet.

As for 6.5 MM bullets, its hard to beat them in a ballistic sense in just about any small arms cartridge that they are loaded in, so the military choice is a good one.

When did you quietly add a CM to your safe?

Simply seems to be what I said.

The US military suddenly realized what the Scandihoovians did 120 years ago...

I agree with CCCC. 308 Win with 150 gr bullet is so close the 6.5 CM out to about 600 yards. If you are shooting at man sized targets at 1000 yards then there is an advantage to the 6.5CM. Otherwise, why all the hub bub? To sell more rifles and so jug heads like us have more calibers to fight over. Which is not really a bad thing.

I'll stick with 308 Win and 30-06. They kill everything I can see, which is to say, if you are >500 yards away I'll never see you. Wearing hectafocals sucks.

That's the standard military sniper load for the 308. Other bullets won't do near as well for long range, especially regarding wind drift. To get decent BCs with a 30 cal bullet, you need something around that weight minimum.

Go ahead and post the ballistics for your preferred load, then we can compare...

What 150 grain .308 bullet has a .697 G1 BC, exactly...?

That's not to mention the fact that a 147 gr 6.5 mm bullet will handily outpenetrate a 150 gr .308" bullet of similar construction running the same velocity - which is a major consideration for the military.

(I'm referencing the 147 gr bullet from the chart in the first post, BTW.)

Considering the domestic gun market is extremely soft in sales and will be for some time the primary bright spot generating sales is the 6.5 Creedmoor.

While we are talking about this, (and that chart) lets put a guess on how many 1000M shots are made by standard battle rifles in actual field conditions...

??.... Anyone?

Don't they have rifles for that?

What's the avg. distance of kills in combat?

Under 300 yards?

If we are strictly focusing on long range kills, I'd put my money on the tried and true 300 Win Mag.

If we are talking about the avg. field rifle for troops, how many are even qualified to make 1000M kills?

Gees......... Don't introduce logic here.

Especially when half of the internet is still having tingly feelings running down their legs over the thought of cheap mil surplus once-fired CM brass.

How may hairs grow on a gnat's butt?

What’s so amusing reading all these Creedmoor threads is that the high BC bullets mean jack chitt to 95% of all US hunters when most animals are killed inside 200 yards. But it’s entertaining to see guys boast the creedmoor’s ability to buck wind at 1000, as if they will be hunting at those distances.

Neighbors are far between out this way, but one of ours did some shooting with a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser here (ancient old thing) and later read this thread. He said it would be interesting if a knowledgeable owner of the newfangled and highly praised 6.5 Creedmore would bring it up here and run it against that old Mauser. He might have something there.

Exactly 12 on the male and 16 on the female. They have small butts, but very fine hair to make up for it. I counted them using my spiffy new Creedmore Microscope.

Good point. But I read (somewhere) that MOST whitetails are shot at <100 yards. Which is why the "as yet to be shot" 30-30 Creedmore will take the day.

Obviously the sale of Creedmoor rifles to those that no longer have a prostate is rather low.

I would think anybody that extolls the virtues of the 6.5 Swede would see the value in the Creed version.

Not if they are old and stupid.

This schit never ain't not funny,with a buncha CLUELESS Fhuqks talking out their asses. Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!

NOBODY had a first fhuqking clue 120 years ago,nor 12 years ago...because Today's boolits hadn't been invented yet. HINT.

I sure as fhuqk HOPE,that THE Fhuqking IDIOT "extolling" his Stupid fhuqking friend,don't shy off and waxes a touch eloquent on the "particulars" of the said piece of fhuqking schit. Mounts/bases/glass/stock,etc.,as well as ammo,is never not fhuqking HILARIOUS. Hint. Consider that two dogs wortha Dare. RE-Hint. HINT.

Was gunning 147 ELD's in Kreedmires yesterday,alongside Whizzum scooted 208 ELD's,7-08 180 ELD's and 7 Whizzum 180 ELD's,in like fhuqking conditions,none of which was favorable. Atmospherics woulda rated National News,anywhere else besides along the shores of the Milford. Hint. It were Sporty.(grin)

Kreedmire 147's,as per my spouts,chambered same.

Hint.






Funnier than fhuqk,that Whining Clueless Fhuqks are trying to brag up MK 248 Mod 1 and 220 Sugars at 2850fps.

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A S/A Whizzum and 208's at 2825fps crush it,handily.

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No flies on a 22" 7-08 and 180 ELD's at 2600fps.(grin)

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I hear good thangs about a S/A 7 Whizzum and 180 ELD's at 2825fps however.

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Pardon Facts & Physics reliably colliding with Fantasy and the "boring" constant,that boolits matter wayyyyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps. Hint.

Slickery boolits do more than slip atmospherics,as they just "happen" to retain a greater percentage of launch velocity,downrange at impact distance too. Who in THE fhuqk wouldn't heartily embrace them in harm's way,being able to reliably roll the greatest opportunity,to connect dots?!? You STUPID Fhuqks,reliably schlep Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude,to places it's never been before! Hint.

A reduction in recoil,barrel heat,more rounds in the belly and lighter ammo,prolly don't suck either. Hint.

'Course,it's easy for me to say,if only because I shoot it all and am afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess. Hint. But that do NOT mean,that I don't getta kick outta Whining Clueless Fhuqks who only "shoot" their mouths and Imaginations,TRYING to "talk" things wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyond their means,abilities and comprehension. Funny schit and I mean fhuqking FUNNY!

It's never been difficult to cypher who shoots and who don';t.

Bless your hearts...for doing your best.

GOOD talk.

Laughing!

Wow +P+!......................









(Addendum...for yet another CLUELESS Fhuqk,giving 'er a whirl)


Tyrone,

There is ZERO need to perpetually reiterate the incredible depths of your Retardation...though it is fhuqking HILARIOUS! Congratulations?!?

Mk 248 Mod 1 is a spec for 300 Winchester fodder and I'm laughing sooooooooooooo fhuqking,hard that I'm crying! I very MUCH enjoy that your "means","abilities" and "comprehension" allowed you to "think" it were a 308. You hard charger" you. Just how much "noise" do you "hear",when you "shoot" your Imagination?!? LAUGHING!!!!

For posterity.





You'd do VERY well,to simply shut the fhuqk up,take notes and apply same...as I lead you to water. Hint. No I mean HINT.

Bless your heart.

PLEASE find me "mistaken" again!

Thank me later.

LAUGHING!......................

Not if your head is stuck on 130 year old rifle & action designs.

That's very generous of you. WTF gets 2,850 fps out of a .308 with 220gr MKs?

Anyway, as I've said before and you have so aptly illustrated, you can just about throw darts at a list and come up with a better long range cartridge than the 308.