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To start, there is/was absolutely nothing wrong with the Weaver tac 3-15x thats on the rifle. I am just one of those guys who always wants the best and have been going back and forth for the last few months on upgrading to a NF/S&B. This rifle is the most accurate, easy shooting, easy operating rifle I have ever owned. I plan to use/hunt with it A LOT. That would include goat/sheep/moose, rugged Idaho back-country for deer/elk, basically everything. And with that I want this one setup to be the absolute best/bombproof combination that I am financially capable of putting together.

S&B needs no introduction or why behind a purchase. Yes, some prefer NF over them for mechanics, but for me glass is important too and nothing beats S&B imho as a total package of rugged, reliable, mechanically dependable, and top tier glass. My heart was set on a PMII 3-12X50 with Illumination, but the $24-2600 range I could get one at was not in the budget so I had put off the idea.

Then comes eurooptic with their memorial day sale. They are offering the S&B Klassik 3-12x50 30mm Illum P3 BDC scope for get this - $1129! That is nearly $1500 off of retail. This scope has the FFP Mil Dot I am use to on the weaver, illumination, 21 oz, and it comes with a Single Turn elevation turret for dialing. My understanding that this turret is 12-13 mil. For my 6.5 that gets me as far out as I plan to shoot/hunt with it. Overall I am pretty excited. It would have been even sweeter if this scope had parallax, but again, for my usage in big game hunting environments - 6 maybe 700 yard max - I don't expect any issue. Going to keep it mounted in the Warne Mnt. Tech rings on the rifle.

Pretty excited to be able to call myself a S&B owner and plan to use this rifle/scope platform for many many hunts and years to come.


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Congrats. I hope it's all you expect, and more.

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Congrats!
That’s a smoking deal, you’ll be very pleased with the scope!
FWIW, from my experience, the Klassik with the BDC dial only gets you 3.2 mils of elevation - some of their dials are 3.2 mils and some are 13 MOA. (I have both). Looks from the picture like 13 MOA?
The PMII single turn turret gets you 13 mils.


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Just called and verified with euro optic. This will be the Moa turret. At 13 moa that will get me to 700....I’m good with that.

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And actually, they have a great deal on the Stratos 1.5-8x42. Might have to give that one a try, might be a perfect all around scope...


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Originally Posted by Kimber7man
And actually, they have a great deal on the Stratos 1.5-8x42. Might have to give that one a try, might be a perfect all around scope...


If it had a dial I'd have grabbed one. Still a nice deal....

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I already had 3 other Klassic S&B's in the safe but when I saw that deal, I grabbed the same scope you did. Best Deal to come along in a while. I have the 3-12x42 Precision Hunter and it has a 3.2 Mil dail adjustment. Not sure why they would put the MOA dial on a Mil-dot scope. Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow.

Best of luck with your new scope. But be careful you may now have the S&B illness and it's contagious!

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Curious for you guys that have them...how’s the eye relief? States 80mm which is kind of slim but for me it’s on a creedmoor so I’m not too worried.

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ER is 90mm.


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Originally Posted by JBB111
I already had 3 other Klassic S&B's in the safe but when I saw that deal, I grabbed the same scope you did. Best Deal to come along in a while. I have the 3-12x42 Precision Hunter and it has a 3.2 Mil dail adjustment. Not sure why they would put the MOA dial on a Mil-dot scope.



...and 1 cm/click windage adjustments regardless of whether the elevation dial is configured with a 3.2 MIL or 12 MOA dial and corresponding Gewindestück tree.

Originally Posted by Kimber7man

FWIW, from my experience, the Klassik with the BDC dial only gets you 3.2 mils of elevation - some of their dials are 3.2 mils and some are 13 MOA. (I have both). Looks from the picture like 13 MOA?


Total indexed elevation adjustment on the MOA configuration is 12MOA. There are two dials, one numbered from 1-13 and a newer one labeled from 0-12.


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Originally Posted by Kimber7man
And actually, they have a great deal on the Stratos 1.5-8x42. Might have to give that one a try, might be a perfect all around scope...


That has to be one fantastic scope

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Originally Posted by Hiaring8
Just called and verified with euro optic. This will be the Moa turret. At 13 moa that will get me to 700....I’m good with that.


It's a great deal for sure. I would have a hard time going to a scope that didn't have matching reticle/turrets in today's world; Mil-dot with MOA turrets. If you are OK keeping that straight, you got a steal.

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That's odd. The pic on the page shows a MOA dial. The specs below list adjustments as ".1 mRad CW"

https://www.eurooptic.com/S-B-Hunting-3-12x50-30mm-644-811-882-40-05A02.aspx

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No parallax adjustment?


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Fixed parallax. Around 12x is where I start noticing it depending on the scope, hopefully this one will be forgiving. I'm probably in the minority but 10x and below I'd rather not have a parallax adjustment (except for rimfire).

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As always, I will get the scope mounted up and do a full review once I get it....I'm indifferent on parallax - never "needed" the adjustment in the field. I am kind of excited that this scope will loose me about 6 oz on the total package. All in all, no matter if the turret is a 13 moa or a 3.2 Mil, with my load, elevation, and 250 yard zero, It will cover me out to the distances I need. I still also plan to play around with the 123 scenar this summer, and if I send those out really fast, the scope will be plenty for those as well.

I guess as I type this, I may not be considered a true "long range hunter" as my idea of that with this rifle/scope combo as well as my skills is again out to say 6, maybe 700 yards. But if I was going into a hunt and was very confident I would need to shoot a lot further (assuming my skill was up to it) I still have the 300 RUM collecting dust in the safe. Also, in the country we hunt - a 700 yard shot, typically means half a day to get over there and a couple day packout..lol

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
That's odd. The pic on the page shows a MOA dial. The specs below list adjustments as ".1 mRad CW"

https://www.eurooptic.com/S-B-Hunting-3-12x50-30mm-644-811-882-40-05A02.aspx




The windage dial will be .1 mrad...


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I've got four Klassics....in a word, flawless. And they gather a hell of a lot more light than the NF in low light conditions.


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Originally Posted by Hiaring8
Curious for you guys that have them...how’s the eye relief? States 80mm which is kind of slim but for me it’s on a creedmoor so I’m not too worried.

One of my Klassics is on my 338 Sako...a dedicated elk rifle. The 338 is a thumper no doubt! Exactly why it wears a S&B. No worries on the eye relief....Eyebrow has stayed intact the last 5 years.


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I jumped on this deal as well, just couldn’t resist the sale prices. Got a Klassik and a Stratos in the mail. Looking forward to testing them out.

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