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I have been without an O/U for a few yers now and I miss it. I had an SK that I really enjoyed, I think I paid around 1500 for it at the time. I am looking for a great O/U, preferably in stainless or nickel, 26” barrels and price is $1500-2700.
I have looked at but not held, Benelli 828U, Citori, 690 field.
Thoughts please?
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I`m a Citori fan. They`re the workhorse of the O/U world. Why not 28" barrels? The Benellis are purty, just not a fan of the rubber comb.
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It's a buyer's market for 26" barrel 12ga over unders. They are out of style as most folks want 30"+ barrels these days, but the 26" barrel guns still work great. You should be able to find plenty of Japanese SKBs and Browning Citoris in that price range.
I think the best value is a used SKB 535 or 785.
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My application is busting clays in skeet and upland shooting if I can find something suitable for both. I have a Benelli SBE II for waterfowl.
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And I just like the 26 inch barrel but a 28 would be fine as well.
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My application is busting clays in skeet and upland shooting if I can find something suitable for both. I have a Benelli SBE II for waterfowl.
If you start to shoot a lot of clay stuff you will probly find a 26 inch gun lacking in several areas, they are great for quick point and shoot on game but will leave much to be desired on a skeet field or sporting clay course. Look at 28’s at a minimum or better yet 30 inch tubes for a good all a rounder. As others have said 26 inch guns are super cheap and there is a reason for that. Don’t forget 30 inch o/u is the same oal as a pump or auto with 28’s. I doubt you will find it too long unless your spending lots of time in a cutover. Browning and Beretta rare top choices imo. With an edge to Browning IMO
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Ok, I’ll look at brownings, I think honestly 28 inches will be a good compromise for skeet and field. Any particular Browning models I should look at?
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If the makers name starts with a B, you cant go too wrong.
I would start with fit, and go from there.
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Browning Lightning is a great field/sporting gun. I have one in 16 gauge with 28’s and wish it were 30, but the longest they make are 28...
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I think the Brownings are as good as any, but they do not fit me well at all... I use Berettas and Win 101s best and really like them. You get much nicer wood on Brownings for the money.
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Find a club that loans or rents out guns, and spend more than a little time shooting and you will have your answer. Then again it may be a temporary answer. What I, or any other poster likes may or may not be what you like. Even with the same brand, there are variations between models that you may or may not like. Shooting will give you more answers than a campfire consensus.
A shotgun you may shoot a lot of skeet with, may be one you don't enjoy carrying a lot hunting. It works that way with most people. Shotguns are essentially tools and you know what they say about tools.
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The best bang for the buck will be with a used gun by far. Let someone else take the hit in depreciation when buying new. Often one can find decent examples for under $1000- especially if it has fixed chokes and 26" barrels. There are two fixed choke Browning Citoris at a small gun shop nearby. The asking prices are $600 due to configuration and barrel length. The one has been carried a lot but doesn't look much fired. The other shows more range use with a decent amount of time in the field. I am tempted to pick up the one but really would like at least 28". 26" and shorter do not balance as I like which makes them a bit more demanding to shoot well. I shoot them well but averages in targets and birds trend higher for me with longer barrels.
Weatherby made by SKB, SKB, Browning, Beretta, Miroku, and then Winchester 101 are the best deals though one can sometimes find a decent Superposed or Remington 3200 in that price range. In the price range in the OP the options for used are nearly limitless and even new has a lot of opportunities. As mentioned, borrow or rent as many different guns as possible before making a decision. Prefer Browning/Miroku over most others but shoot Beretta and most others as well.
I don't worry much about gun fit other than the balance is pretty close to how I want it. Length is not a great factor if it is fairly close as short or long are both easy and fairly cheap fixes. A low comb is typically a deal breaker as raising it is harder as is a gun with too thin of a comb or stock as the comb can bite and there is no wood to remove if needed to bring the eye behind the receiver. Bending a stock is expensive, time consuming, and is not guaranteed to work. A good 98% of the time it is wasted advice to tell someone to get a gun that "feels good" to them as that fitting advice invariably means to get something similar to what they have which is unlikely to fit. Unless one has been fitted by a good stock maker and paid close attention and asked questions or has learned the hard way through many tens of thousands of shells (and typically with good advisors/instructors who have an idea on gun fit) it is pretty slim chances that they will pick out a gun that fits correctly. One can adapt to some guns better than others but adapt and fit are two different subjects.
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Said to myself I wouldn't go there again, but.....
Gun, fit, gun fit, gun fit.....Get one that fits is the campfire mantra. Well when buying off the shelf, within the same model they change little. So, you can look at more than a few and they will be mostly close to the same. You may get lucky.
Next will be that unless one has a correct and repeatable mount, the best fitted shotgun will do you little good. You can include proper visual skills into the mix also. Until then, a close fit will serve one as well. And to quote Stick: "Spent primers are the ultimate tutorial."
On the Upland Journal forum there is a poster by the handle of "PatridgeCartridge" who has posted a series on shotgun shooting, and there is more than a little to be learned from reading it.
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Ok, I’ll look at brownings, I think honestly 28 inches will be a good compromise for skeet and field. Any particular Browning models I should look at? I settled on a Citori Lightning with 28" barrels after going thru a couple BT-99`s a GTI and a Special Trap. YMMV.
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Those seem to work well for most guys.
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I wanted a dedicated clays gun so I bought a Browming 725 high rib. Sent it out, had an adjustable comb, and a gracoil installed.
Being that it was dedicated for clays and I mainly shoot sporting, 5 stand and trap I bought 32 Iinch bbls. When I shoot skeet I shoot one of my field guns with 28 inch tubes
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Anything in the Beretta 68* series is your best used gun bet, if you plan to carry it while upland hunting.
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I bought a Citori 625 for Skeet. It happened to have an adjustable comb, which I didn't touch for awhile. As I got better, I changed the fit by moving the comb up and increasing cast off. Later I shot Sporting Clays. After awhile I sensed I needed more weight at the end of the barrels. I bought a Caesar Guerini Invictus with 32" barrels. I use it for Sporting and Skeet but it's a little slow and heavy for hunting. For hunting I use the Citori or, better yet, a sweet little Browning 28 gauge with 28" barrels.
If I were you, I would probably pick 30" barrels unless you are shorter than 5' 10" But make sure you try out any gun before you buy it.
I would definitely specify an adjustable comb on any gun I bought from now on.
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If I were you, I would probably pick 30" barrels unless you are shorter than 5' 10" But make sure you try out any gun before you buy it.
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If I were you, I would probably pick 30" barrels unless you are shorter than 5' 10" But make sure you try out any gun before you buy it.
LOL, where are you getting that from!! Next thing you know there will be a weight restriction on barrel length! Got to be 5'11" and at LEAST 195 lbs to shoot 30's. It will be like taking the label off a mattress, DONT DO IT!
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Seen more than a few youngsters who don’t make the height, and can embarsss all of us while humping a 32/34 in Krieghoff.
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I wonder if I should sell my 32" Browning Citori 525 as I barely make the height for 30" barrels? And quash my dreams of a 34" Rizzini after shooting one quite well? I did use a plain Jane 30" Citori to make Master class the first time but that 525 got me back in after not registering targets for a few years. The wife doesn't make any of the requirements and she shoots a 30" barreled gun-though it is a semi-auto.
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YOUR DOING IT ALL WRONG!
For starters sell me that 32 inch 525. Then go find a nice 28 inch gun, cuz they are so good, and resume shooting only at a much higher level. You will go from Master class to Pro class!
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I just had a rebuild done and asked the Smith-who travels the circuit working on shotguns-which one holds up above the others. His reply was the 680 Beretta series. The good Brownings were ranked second.
Browning for myself was a surprise.
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Beretta, Browning, skb and even Franchi make good over and under that are in your price range used.
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Look for a used Browning Citori Sporting Clays model in 12 guage. You will be happy you did.
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Look for a used Browning Citori Sporting Clays model in 12 guage. You will be happy you did. ........ That's what I did......Picked one up last August and I'm happy with it.
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You could get into a clean, used Superposed on your budget, easily.
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I have a lot of fine guns, today they would be too expensive, so I was looking for a cheaper o/u for an introduction gun..... I just picked up a Calvary, which is made by Koffs out of Turkey,. and comes with Beretta chokes, 5, nice wood, scribed with grouse receiver,,,,,, 28 inch 12 484.00
I might be selling this gun tomorrow for a new Savage o/u but we will see,,,,,,,,,, its going to be used for trap and sporting clays....................
My field guns are side by sides, most are over 40 years old, all 26 inch, with chrome barrels....... I agree there are some good deals on them. I have a SKB Ithaca model 100 and 280 I would never part with........
My go to grouse gun, up here in the UP, is a 24 inch barrel model 1100 Remington, with a straight English stock. take the plug out, it holds 5 rounds, and is a bird killing machine,,,,,, came with 5 chokes,,,,,,
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