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That is a really nice buck! That's why it's important, on bullet reports, to know where they were taken. Lots of differences in size in different parts of the country.

Was it a lung shot? Looks like it was. Did it exit? How far did he go before crashing?

Congratulations to your daughter. My wife killed one about like that several years ago with a 243 and 100 grain Hornady flat bases. She shot him twice, no exit either time. I wasn't around for the field dressing so don't know what the lungs looked like or how far he went. She doesn't like to talk about those kinds of details.

Details please. What part of Missouri?

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Originally Posted by Bearcat74

How would a 105 RN would be better than the 80/85 Barnes, 95/100 Nosler or the 105 Hornady BTHP?



I'm not being a smart ass I'm just asking.



I've killed with RN, PSP and poly tipped bullets and I can tell no difference.

Not saying that I think it'd kill better, but maybe running it a bit slower might save a bit of meat? I doubt I'd use them with the rifle I have now as it has a preference for lighter bullets anyhow.

But my plan is to upgrade to a 9-ish twist rifle. And then I might want to do some sperimentin. Oh well, I'll be happy to just shoot the 100's and maybe that 105 BTHP.

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RBH- That's a dandy buck and a great picture! Congrats to your daughter!

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Preface by saying that most of the quality bullets like the Barnes, Hornady, Sierra, Nosler, etc will do the job just fine if you shoot the deer in the boiler room. I have been shooting the 95 nbt in 243 for 20 years. I have never had any issue with performance. Most drt and the few that do run go less than 30 in my experience. I don’t shoulder shoot very often, but have done it with the 95nbt without issue. I have also used corelokt and 95 vld. They killed quickly and efficiently also. Last year my wife shot three does with my 6mmbr and the 105vld. They all were lung shot and went straight down at 150-175 yards.

I don’t see me switching from the 95nbt or 243 for deer anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by Bearcat74

How would a 105 RN would be better than the 80/85 Barnes, 95/100 Nosler or the 105 Hornady BTHP?



I'm not being a smart ass I'm just asking.



I've killed with RN, PSP and poly tipped bullets and I can tell no difference.

Not saying that I think it'd kill better, but maybe running it a bit slower might save a bit of meat? I doubt I'd use them with the rifle I have now as it has a preference for lighter bullets anyhow.

But my plan is to upgrade to a 9-ish twist rifle. And then I might want to do some sperimentin. Oh well, I'll be happy to just shoot the 100's and maybe that 105 BTHP.



I grew up hunting the woods of Michigan and if you're like me, probably 80% or more of my shots have been within 150yds and only 1 past 250. So in the woods, today's ultra-high BC's aren't any good to me (and probably quite a few others out there). The old tried and true round nose were killing deer and everything else that walked for a lot of years before we decided that solid coppers are the way to go, and I imagine the 30-30's and 35's still out there (not to mention my dad's favorite 348) will continue to fill the freezer for some years to come.

I like the idea of the initial impact from the larger frontal area creating shock. I also read an article a couple of years ago explaining how the RN bullets have more weight up front which helps to "pull" the bullet through the animal better. Not sure that this can be proven, but what is proven is that RN bullets for whatever reason just work.

I recently switched to a semi-round nose in my 300WM. I tried some Norma ammo in 165 oryx that shoots honest 1/4" groups at 100 and still holds 4" or better at 400. I haven't tried them on game yet but they are getting tested this fall on my Montana mule deer hunt.

My dad has killed a pile of deer with the 243 and core loct's while all 3 of my boys killed everything their 243's pointed at with 100gr partitions. So bottom line, find which one shoots best, put it in the right spot and you'll be fine.

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My farthest shot on a deer is 201yds and I killed it with a muzzleloader. High bc bullets don't help at closer ranges but they don't hinder anything either. I know with the 105 HPBT it's nice to be able to practice hammering steel at 600 and 800yds while it still works on deer at 30yds.


I've killed plenty of deer with RN bullets and I've yet to see any difference in killing between RN and SP.


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