Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire The IRS sucks!

RANT...You pay, you pay and then pay more taxes. Live a conservative life, live within your means, pay taxes all of your working career and then during your retirement you have to pay taxes on your SS. You pay taxes on the money that you slaved to save. You pay taxes upon taxes! This pisses me the hell off! Helll!!!

The IRS sucks???

Sherlock, is that you?

Amen brother. I fell the same way. In all fairness it is congress that passed the law. The IRS just does the dirty work. I spent near 30 years as a tax consultant. . Believe me, the IRS does plenty of dirty work. I intend to write my congressman and senator to see if they can do something about the social security taxation with the next tax bill. Even worse, my wife worked for the for a state agency for awhile in addition to working for the private sector and took early retirement. They reduced her social security benefit to which she was entitled because of her work with the state. That, plus paying tax on money we paid tax on when we earned it is a double whamy.

Don’t forget sales tax and your heirs getting taxed on their inheritance.

Cost me over $200 a month to live in a house that's fully paid for. Then there's the 50 cents per gallon fuel tax, Between taxes and insurance there's not much in discretionary funds left.

It takes a lot of money run a bureaucracy!

Alan

Lots of gimmie dats need your money!!

Try $24.66 a DAY in property taxes alone. When I do retire we will have no choice but to sell if I can't get out of this state before then.

When you buy a set of tires you pay a federal excise tax. Then you pay sales tax, in most states, on this excise tax.

I write on the memo of my estimate checks "To keep the welfare rats fat, sassy, and medicated!"

It's a joke. The faucet needs to be turned to OFF.

...to say nothing of paying your house and property off (free and clear) then having to rent it back from the government in the form of property tax !

Its not like the people that pay taxes see any return in the way of services. It all goes to programs that buy votes from the lower Socio-demographic sector of society.

We consistently fund our own demise.

The IRS (along with the 16th Amendment and the Federal Reserve System) should have never been allowed to come into existence. They fundamentally transformed our nation from one where the privacy of citizens was respected by the government to where everything you do is the Federal Government's business, while you're not supposed to know what the Federal Government is doing behind closed doors. That's a 180 degree flip. After that, we ceased being the nation that was founded in 1789.

It was congress and Clinton that started taxing SS benefits.

PS Even by the words of the Amendment, income was deemed by our Courts to refer only to profit/gain, not to mere wages. Wages aren't income. If wages were meant to be taxable, so would a business owner's gross earnings, but only a business owner's net earnings are taxable as income. Since a wage earner's salary always exactly equals his gross earnings, with zero net (the value of one's wages equals exactly the value of one's labor investment), none of his salary is taxable as income, and this was the ruling of the US Supreme Court.

At a certain point, the Federal Government just decided to ignore these accepted definitions so as to implement the Marxist system we have today, where one's wages belong to the government , ab initio, and then the government determines how much of it you will need to support yourself, similar to the system in the Old South where black slaves were put to work on jobs in town ... his owner received the salary from the employer, and then paid the slave enough from it only to support himself (so he could pay for rent, food, etc..).

PropertyTax pisses me off to no end, along with inheritance tax, but property even more.

Those two should have had their own articles in the original Bill of Rights, since property tax negates the very concept of property, and inheritance tax is double taxation on family earnings.

Tax on property should only be assessable at the point of sale, as in the case of chattel property, non-cumulatively. The idea of a regularly assessed tax on land holdings goes back to the times of Lords being mere holders of the land for the King, rather than actual owners of it. When we gave up kings and lords, that should have gone away right along with them.