Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns New M&P a "Glock 19 Killer?"

The M&P has been around since 2005. Not exactly "gun of the month" stuff. Glock is no longer the only, or necessarily the default best, polymer framed striker fired gun on the market. It's a good thing for end users to have high quality choices.

This.

Glock's superiority has faded. Now Glock is just a name that fan-boys pay extra for. And I'm an ex-Glock lover - my first 9mm was a G19 back in 94. Served me well for many thousands of rounds.
But if I were looking for another 9mm - it wouldn't be a new Glock.

Don't be coy, Roy.

What would it be?

The ergos of the M&P suit me MUCH better than the Glock... still have and like my G19 though.

Jerry

The M&P admittedly feels better in the hand, but once one is familiar with shooting the Glock, that doesn't much matter, IMO.

That Glock Koolaid is strong stuff, no doubt. Must be near 100 proof the way it can wreck a mans better judgement and decision making.

I will agree the M&P's feel great in the hand and I think they are excellent pistols and a great value. I have nothing bad to say about them. That said, I have seen cases both ways were some shooters do better firing the Glock and some do better firing the M&P. I have a friend who always comments about how good the M&P 2.0 feels in his hand, but he consistently shoots Glocks better. I'm guessing its familiarity from years of shooting them.

I'm just happy to see other good quality striker fired pistols come on the market to give Glock real competition. That usually results in both products getting better.

Mark in GA

What's a good price and what vendor?

Thanks, retard.

Flave that is best comment of the week! (maybe month)

Yes.

Call me a fanboy if you want but, I have seen nothing from S&W, Sig, or anyone else that would make be give up my G19. I love when dudes talk about the sights as if it were a reason to shy away from Glock.. You do realize that NO ONE leaves the stock sights on there, even Glock knows this, thats why the come with plastic junk sights. The same can be said for the trigger, even though the Glock trigger is a very good, serviceable trigger, there are TONS of aftermarket options, to get the feel you want.

Im not Bashing the S&W btw, its a great gun in its own right. Just not for me.

Mark,
Of course most people change the sights. Like you said, Glock factory plastic sights are junk. Problem is, now the cost jumps another $100 - $150 and makes an over priced gun even more so. I like Glock, I've carried them professionally off and on for thirty years. I have personally owned Glocks for about the same number of years. My opinion comes from long personal experience and several tens of thousands of rounds fired. I no longer prefer Glock as a default best choice in a striker fired auto pistol. Exactly as you said, just not for me. And if someone else has a different opinion that's obviously good for them. I don't understand ignoring other offerings that admittedly fit better, have better sights, have good triggers, are just as reliable and accurate and cost less in purchase price. But oh well, everybody has to work it out for themselves.

I hope my local gun store gets one in the rental counter. I would like to try it. The Shield 45 I have is an accurate gun, the shield 9mm was as accurate as my G43 and gent 2 G19, all of which are noticeably less accurate than the P365, which is back at the factory as the mag release rusted in 3 months . You pay's yo nickle and you takes yo chances... I was not impressed with the gen 1 9mm shield.

I have. It's called the M&P. Until they came out, the G19/32 were my go-tos. Had the M&P not come out I would've ("would of" for the morons) kept carrying my Glocks. I still like them. They're ("there" for the morons) just not as good, to me, as the M&P.


I completely agree with the above.


I completely disagree with the above.


I completely agree with the above.


I feel the same way as the above about the Glock. And I still keep and like my Glocks.

Too many people get too ("to" for the morons) defensive about their own chosen pistols. Shoot what fits you best, or, like the OP, shoot what doesn't fit you best but become accustomed to it. Most pistols made today are very serviceable. It is nice to have choices.

I guess in the spirit of the thread title, I should respond to the question posed by that guy who started the thread. Yes, it will kill off some; but, the G19 will reign ("rain" for the morons) supreme for a long time for many reasons. Many of which are good and many of which are absurd. It's good to be king.

To me, both lines of guns are really no different to operate because the controls are in similar places. If you can run one, you can probably run the other just fine with a minimal learning curve. After carrying a G23 for years, I now edc an M&P40 2.0c and the G23 sits in the safe. The 2.0c shoots quite a bit softer and feels better overall. When it comes to 40, I think the M&P line is better than Glock in terms of felt recoil and splits. Then again, I think Glock 9mm guns perform better than M&Ps. Ive had some M&P9s that just didn’t shoot well..

Glock triggers suck! This is a given. The older guns had adequate accuracy I hope to shoot one of the new 19x guns several have said the new ones are more accurate. Would like to rent and shoot this new smith as well.

You are aware, of course, that the M&P line tends to run a few ounces heavier than comparable Glocks, right? That might account for a slightly lighter recoil impulse.

I think you have hit on a real/ true difference between the Glock and M&P lines. The Glock was designed from the start to be a 9mm. Then the 40 comes along and they work to shoehorn it into the existing Glock platform. It just did fit, but without much extra margin. Sometimes the 40 Glocks don't always hold up as well as 40's as they did as 9mm's. On the other hand the M&P came along well after the 40 had near universal acceptance. So S&W designs their new platform around the 40 first and then easily switches it to a 9mm. This difference alone like accounts for why the M&P tends to be a little thicker and huskier is some places than the Glock.

Mark in GA