Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns New M&P a "Glock 19 Killer?"

LMAO Big Sky.

I've fooled with enough 40-45 caliber Glocks and MPs now to have formed some opinions.

Glocks have sloppier chambers which translates to better feeding with a wide variety of bullet profiles. I've benched enough Glocks to be convinced the vast majority will keep 5 shots in 4" at 50 yards from a rest. I'm getting about the same or a shade better from MP's so accuracy is good enough in either case.

Glock makes the better magazine and it's less prone to inadvertent damage. Another reliability advantage. If I buy a used MP it automatically gets the mags detail stripped and new springs installed.

Of course you can polish out the MP chamber, feed ramp and break over point, I've done this and a MP will feed SWCs etc like butter afterward.

I like the basic MP grip much better. For me to like midsize Glocks, I have to undercut the trigger guard to make knuckle room.

Frankly I think a Walther P99AS would suit me better than either of them.

You've nailed it SargeMO. There are slight differences. Those slight differences make all the difference to a variety of shooters. Heck, they are assembly line items and, consequently, even among identical make and model there will be differences that an end-user will notice. Both are great pistols each with its own shortcomings. Those shortcomings are determined by individual shooters but are not a death nell to the use of said pistols as a personal defense weapon. It's great to have choices. An interesting point that is often lost. For defensive carry, both accomplish what is needed, straight from the factory. Most of us like to tinker to obtain our own personal end goal and, to simply have fun doing so.

With all of this M&P discussion going on, I wound up picking up a new 9mm 3.6” today after trading one of my Glock 19s for it, just to see how I like it. So far so good, but won’t know for sure until it has some rounds through it to see how it runs. Nice size for carry, and only a touch smaller than the 4” models. I’ll update you with findings as soon as I can get to the range.

I realize its a few oz heavier, buy I don’t think the weight accounts for the dramatic difference in felt recoi. Adding a light to a Glock 22 doesn’t make it instantly softer shooting. I think it has more to do with the adaptability of the M&P grip and the grip angle.

John Browning had that grip angle thing figured out long ago. Gaston not so much.

Thanks TBS. Another plus for the MP is that it comes with a conventionally rifled barrel and handles lead bullets w/o the necessity of an aftermarket part. My MP45 shot real well with them, too.

One thing I wished Glock would have redisigned or done differently in the first place, is have a roomier trigger guard.

When you wear gloves in negative temptures and make traffic stops it would be nice to be able to wear a warm glove. I am surprised the Austrians ( colder climate) never thought about it. I could see it if they came from some country closer to the equator.

The USP aced the 'usable with gloves' thing and is a excellent pistol beyond that attribute.

Bless your heart....

The USPs have always been truly outstanding handguns. While their ergos may not work for everyone (like Glocks), they are built to run and run, and with proper PMCS will endure incredible round counts, especially the 9mm and .45 ACP versions.

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All of us wanna be Mall Ninjas will just defer to your incredible experience Sir and immediately switch from carrying our Glocks and HKs to Keltecs and the "Glock Killer"Ruger Security 9!







" This Just In!

British SAS/SBS switch to Ruger Security 9, backed up by Keltec!"

"The Swedish and Norwegian Special Forces follow suit, turn in their Glocks, get issued Keltecs and start Drinking Their Own Piss!"

that keltec looks like it might make a usable boat paddle in a pinch.

well Ted,

you gave me a good, hearty laugh with that one...

And that is why I use the term "mall ninja". Ridiculous, unrealistic, bull-shlt scenarios used to justify spending piles of money.

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You mall ninja's aka, deflave & Mackay are just jealous because you have a job and can afford a Glock and dont have to settle for Kel-Tec's..........