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That would make sense, as long as they have the gear and air for those who need it. Oxygen levels are dropping.

It appears to be a last resort. If the weather does what's forecast, the water could get too deep to bring them out. The underwater distance could get too far to swim. They're racing the storms.

The discussion about O2 levels dropping pertains to where the boys are, I'm guessing less of a problem at other areas.

You say last resort, I say well planned, thought out operation. I guarantee none there are thinking this is a last resort operation.

I think it is more in general. They said it was decreasing due to the high traffic of rescuers in addition to the boys. All of them had to pass twice through the other areas as well. (Where they rested)

With the available options stated by the rescuers, from drilling a hole,,,to waiting 3 months, swimming the boys was listed as "last resort". Obviously they made the call to move now, I'm sure it's in the best interest of the boys safety.

They are weak and low on oxygen, it's now or never.

Seems like it's the best option and best options are not last resorts.

Anyone else think there will be either a locked gate at the entrance, or an escape shaft dug in the dry months after this?

4 are out

As has been said.

It's the only chance. Anything else is pure fantasy. So much half-assed misinformation on this.

Godspeed

I don't know how many of you have been through the Asian monsoons, but I sure as hell would not want to be trapped underground during one. You can damn near drown being ABOVE ground when it rains that hard. We're talking feet of rain, not inches.

I think they planned as best they could.

But now it's down to the nut cuttin', and they had to do it.

That's all anyone can ask.

When I was in Explorer Scouts we went in to a cave. This was up in North Georgia, 1964, there was no park, no signs, just climbed a hundred yards up a mountain. There was a six foot high black hole in the side of the mountain. Our Advisor tied a rope around a pine tree and threw it in to the dark hole and we went in, hand over hand fifty feet straight down to the cave. I was 13 and I went first. No harness, no helmet. This was 1964. I guess I stuck my flashlight into my pocket I don't remember.
Eight of us and we went maybe a quarter mile into that cave. No water in this cave.
I enjoyed seeing the stalagtites and stalagmites etc. We stayed in there 2 hours and I was also the first one out! I must say I was glad to get out that place was scary and I felt claustrophobic in there.

When I was in college we went down to Florida and went scuba diving in a crystal spring. This spring was 200 feet across and the water perfectly clear, like looking through air. At the sandy bottom in the bright sunlight I could see perfectly.
I went 60 feet down to the bottom and there was a cave! Nobody had told me about that. About six feet high. It was pitch black dark in that cave. I didn't have a light. I went about 2 feet into that cave, and I got the hell out. Going in to an underwater cave is some scary stuff, I would never do it.

There is a scuba club at Ga Tech and every year they go diving in those caves in Florida. About every third year you read about a couple of the Ga. Tech divers dying in those flooded caves. Dangerous stuff.

Here in San Antonio for the longest time we had three dead cave divers in our aquifer, the one they knew where he was they were able to finally fish his remains out a few years back after like 25 years. The other two were swept away by a strong current over by Uvalde. Not a fate I’d wish on anyone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/44755093

More details. And the rains have arrived.

How long does it take for the rain to find it's way into the cave?

It is one dicey operation. It is scary to watch live on tv, hope everybody gets out of this alive.

Limestone has big cracks, so it is pretty much instantaneous. Water will rise quickly.

Not long. 10 hour break while diver prep for next attempt. Read the link, has quite a bit of small details.

There was a mixup with volunteers earlier on where they set up and started pumping water without coordination with the main detail. They didn't realize they were just pumping water back into the caverns.

Seems like they should have had more divers set to go, no need stopping just go !