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Guys I'm not pushing anything at all. This is just more info per XTRs. ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/NrsOCfz.jpg) The XTRs and NEW FTWT were Introduced in 1981. That's the Cover of the 1981 Win catalog and on P 6 we find this: ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/jq5oTiM.jpg) I agree with those who've said something to this effect. The XTRs are VERY GOOD rifles. I have one now in 6.5X55 and had a 270 W. Neither of them gave me any trouble at all. Jerry
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My first rifle was a model 70 XTR in .30-06. I was 16, I think. My dad bought it with the money I gave him, $206.50 on sale at Bi-Mart.
I still have it.
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jwall, Yes! Was “only” explaining when, why, where, Winchester acquired it’s poor reputatation on the post-64 models. It obviously did not “carry-over” into the ‘80’s and the XTR models! memtb
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My short action featherweight carbine in 22/250 carries very nicely and shoots groups like it's a target rifle. A safety that actually blocks the striker and the best trigger ever put on a sporting rifle
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16 - Why it's XTRA, what else ?   Seriously, I don't know and have never heard. Jerry
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Very Nice Rifle. I had one of those and in a fit of utter gun trading stupidity several years ago traded it off. I have rued that day many times. 
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Wife's first rifle was a XTR in 243 Winchester. Bought it new in '76 if I remember right. High gloss finish, white line spacers, and black for tip and grip cap. It's the only rifle I have never been able to shoot better than 3" at 100 yards for a group. New scope, mounts, reloaded everything from light to heavy bullets different powders etc etc. Even put it in a new stock and bedded it. No luck. Still have it and thinking about a new barrel. Funny thing is it's a long action but a 243.. She has shot several whitetails with it so it stays around. To me not accurate, but still minute of deer..
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Back in the early 80's I bought a 30-06, a 270, and a 223 in Feather Weight XTR. Loved the 30-06 as it was almost 2 pounds lighter than my 1917 30-06. The 270 was for my wife and she did not like it and stayed with her savage 308. Well I had Randell Redman re-bore it to a 35 Whelen. These XTR's are my favorite bolt guns going.
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16 - Why it's XTRA, what else ? Seriously, I don't know and have never heard. Jerry Xtreme Tacticool Rifle Got it....
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Xtreme
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Got it....
Okay  Mustabeen new terminology in 1981.  Jerry
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We have several of them around here! As Winchester changed hands a few times, their quality control seemed to waiver a bit....but the design makes it a great rifle. Probably the biggest “black eye” was in the post ‘60’s era, with the “pressed” checkering. Didn't hurt the functionality, just cheap looking! memtb Yep, those early ones with the ugly, pressed checkering were pretty bad looking, although they shot well. Seems quality improved later on and was pretty good with the XTR's and cut type checkering. The extractor in the bolt lug was a weak point and could be blown out with an overcharge. Barrels were pretty good, IMO about as good as the Pre-64's. Years ago, I bought an early version in 7RM from a bud for $90, put it in a Royal stock, glassed and checkered it. My son still has it and used it to kill deer. It wears a 3-9 Tasco Titan, the older 30 mm Jap version with FFP. A good scope. It's a MOA shooter, lots of performance for the investment. DF
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I have a 30/06 made IN 64 and a 225 Win made in 65. I know they are ugly, and I can't explain wh,y but I really like both, just the way they are. Both being tack drivers helps, of course. But to me they balance wall and line up well when at my shoulder. no accounting for taste, I guess...
Edited to add: And they ARE, after all, a unique piece of Winchester history...
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There is a late 60s M70 in 308 WIN for sale in my area and its a pretty nice rifle, it has a large older Weaver scope on it. If it was a 222 I would snatch it up.
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There is a late 60s M70 in 308 WIN for sale in my area and its a pretty nice rifle, it has a large older Weaver scope on it. If it was a 222 I would snatch it up.  Funny you said that.. I was digging in one of my safes for a certain rifle and came across a M70 PF compact.. When I took it out to get at another one further back I noted it was a .222 Rem.. I do NOT remember owning that one at ALL... It's hell to get old..
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Well, you don't own it. I left it with you to do a trigger job........ don't ya know ? Jerry
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Well, you don't own it. I left it with you to do a trigger job........ don't ya know ? Jerry Nice try. I'll give ya an "E" for effort, but an "F" for results..
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The post 64's made through the 1970's were not that good as a rule. I think those were the rifles the gun writers despised. Winchester was actually bought out by investors and the name was changed to 'United States Repeating Arms Company" in 1979 or 1980 IIRC. They made an effort to improve things and went with the XTR line in the early 80's. Someone said 1981, that is probably about right. I've had a few of the 1980's era rifles and liked them all. In the early 1990's they bought back the CRF design and called them "Classics". The pushfeed rifles continued in production alongside the CRF rifles right up until they closed the doors in 2006. But after the Classics were introduced the PF versions were relegated to the budget line of rifles and I don't think they were as good as the 1980's XTR's.
I'd much rather have an XTR than any Remington 700 ever made. But given the option really prefer the Classics or current production rifles. I eventually sold all of my XTR's. Not that there was anything wrong with them, but I just liked the CRF rifles better. Wrong.. on the whole USRACo story.. you left out Olin corporation, labor union strike in 78-79, Olin corporation was not making money on rifles anymore. it's all on the internet, so no need to shoot from the hip.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Well, you don't own it. I left it with you to do a trigger job........ don't ya know ? Jerry Nice try. I'll give ya an "E" for effort, but an "F" for results.. Now, that was sneaky... DF
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