Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns New M&P a "Glock 19 Killer?"

I think it could be. I bought a compact 2.0 9mm last night for 349 after the rebate. Glock better recognize fast that they aren't the only premium poly handgun anymore or they are going to lose a huge chunk of the market. The smith is very well made and the trigger and sights are much improved over the glock. I do love the glock 19 but this one might make me forget that. Only complaint I have is this one is slightly top heavy. That may be a good thing while shooting. Will find out.

The M&P is the real deal...

Yes, Glocks are now overpriced.
Glock is a stubborn company, I hope they adapt.

Why would I prefer the newest slide/barrel length (3.6") vs the standard four inch compact model?

Balance or weight?

The Glock 19 killer is the Ruger Security 9. Only mall ninjas would spend 2x for the Glock name. S&W is getting better and better, and if they got the weight down, then folks would hard pressed to justify a Glock.
But the M&P series has traditionally been a little tubby and this compact is 4oz heavier than the G19/Security 9.

Sorry dja, but I must respectfully disagree. I was an LEO for 33 years and I'm a hard core Glock man. I've been carrying Glocks since 1987 and have total faith in them. We were issued M&P .40s for uniform carry starting in 2007. Too many issues with them for me. The slide sometimes slams shut on its own when a new magazine is inserted. Sometimes they wouldn't lock open on an empty magazine. The Ordnance staff would tell us not to jam the magazine into the well too hard. The top round might jar loose and cause a feed jam. I'm no mall Ninja, but give me a Glock any time. I like Ruger pistols, but my issued M&P that I bought for $1 when I retired is in the safe. I bought all of my old service guns as something for my kids to have some day.

Ron

I have no plans to switch form Glock. I bought an M&PC9 nearly as soon as they hit the market. I carried it for about a year. I've got nothing against them, but I have more confidence in a Glock, which I've been carrying exclusively for the past few years.

I don't care about not locking open. I care that it goes bang and is ready to go bang again. But any pistol I own is going to have to be flawless for a couple hundred rounds before I trust it

Glock 19 killer? Probably not.

I rotate pistols but I shoot between 3-500 rounds a weekend. I shoot M&P9's, M&P45, Shield 9, Colt Commander 1911, a few revolvers and a few 22's, even a Sig 228 from time to time. Glock has never fit me no matter how much I wanted to like them but a buddy I shoot with loves his Glocks and he shoots them well. Nothing will kill them for him. Ford vs Chevy.

That would be my question. The height of the two pistols is the same isn't it?

OK, watched the whole review, height is the same, shorter slide/barrel is a bit better for appendix carry.

S&W evidently plans on offering an M&P in 1/4", or near that, incremental barrel lengths. Kinda wild... and dumb. I really like the M&P pistols but I don't understand the need for a 3.6", 4", 4.25" and 5" spectrum of barrel lengths. They seem to be a little bunched up in the middle there. I have S&W 9mm's in a Shield 3", a 2.0 Compact 4" and a 5" Pro that seems about ideal to me. I dunno, I'm probably wrong thinking and more options are better.

Yep.

In theory. Except that a shorter barrel isn't necessarily better for appendix carry, often it's worse. The G19 vs G26 is a good example; the shorter G26 slide is less stable in appendix carry and tends to tip outward more for a lot of people.

I purchased the 4'' version a few weeks ago (just before the rebate began as goes my luck) and have about 300 rounds through it so far. When compared to the Glock 19 I can say I shoot the M&P noticeably better. The weight of the M&P feels more evenly distributed to me which results in less barrel movement when firing. IMO the M&P trigger is as good as or better than the Glock. The current rebate would get an M&P buyer in almost $200 under a new Glock purchase. I don't think Glock is going anywhere but for the money the M&P is a heck of a gun

Same here

The G19 has been around a long time. If you have a gen2, send it in for a free upgrade. Assuming factory magazines and factory ammunition, if you don't screw with them and keep them stock, they work just fine. It is likely wiser to stay with the same platform, learn it and practice than it is to join the gun-of-the-month club.