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You’re the luckiest guy I know, when it comes to not breaking rifles. S’pose maybe that offsets your lack of luck in hair follicle department.....

I’ve had POI move 6”-8” from rifles simply falling over while leaned against a tree or a tailgate, that doesn’t seem to happen now that schitt is screwed, glued, and tattooed. Admittedly, I’m also pretty clumsy, and have wrecked ass over tea kettle with a rifle in my hands more than once...couple dabs of JB Weld is good piece of mind....

Dog, with all do respect, I’ve been around a lot of rifles, mounted a shiit ton of scopes for folks, a lot of guys come out as I have 500 in the field, and I’ve never ever experienced shiit that’s posted here!! Never!! My ol man sat me at the loading bench when I was 12, been mounting scopes since then, guess I’m lucky???

As a aside, my smith, steve Kostanich, “google him”, installed a visa on a 338 rum lss first year they were made. Shot the [bleep] outta it , 3-9 Nikon ucc, shot 1/2” groups stupidly. Picked it up from him, he says how’d that rifle shoot? I says it shoots rather stellar. Steve says, “huh”..... I ask why, he says, well both base screws were sheared off on the rear base!!! Haha. That was after 2 bear and a few bucks gettin smashed.... ya I guess I am lucky, and yes, Nikon hold their zero too..... I guess I’ll just keep doin what I’m doin.... grin

Just funny how mileage varies.....

You’ve got a sweet spread up there.... I’ve always liked your place.

I love it! If it aint broke don't fix it.

Ya it’s weird, makes me question my shiit!!! Haha

Your welcome anytime man, got 3 bedrooms upstairs and a camptrailer I can tow down to the river if you like....

PS, the backyard range sucks sometimes, the neighbors absolutely hate me the last part of September/first of October..... grin

We laughed and laughed about it!!! It ruined the rifle when I had the vias installed, tripped it for a set of Swarovski 10-42, wish I still had that rifle. Never forget a bear I killed with it, daughter was about 2. Got off my quad, grabbed the rifle in 1 hand, daughter in the other. Walked over a landing, set sis down, started glassin, bout a 200 lb sow fed up a canyon to us, 210 partition between the shoulder blades, out the belly button... impressive flip for sure... no flys on the 38 rum....

Neighbors sensitive to the sound of gunfire? Sweet! I’m bringing a truck load of magnums, all with muzzle brakes, and a fire extinguisher in the event I set you back 40 aflame 🤭😎

That’s called hunting right there...😎

Bring er!!!! The dollar will be lit up!!! Laffin

Heck, I've got a 300 WM M70 Classic Stainless that I drilled and tapped the holes to 8x40, scuffed up the receiver and bases with a Dremel, epoxied and torqued them down.
Bubba? yup. But they don't move.
I was thinking about TIG welding them, but went that way instead.

Judman, I think you are very lucky. I hunt the Carpathian mountains, the majority of the hunts going up and down mountains, the trails being covered with mud or ice and snow. Due to the very common brown bear encounters, most of the time my rifle is in my hands or one hand while trying to stabilize myself with the other hand. I can count on dropping or falling down with the rifle at LEAST once a hunt in muddy or snow/ice conditions going up and down those mountains. If you are lucky, your rifle will impact only snow,mud or brush, but there are a lot of rocks and ice looking for that rifle.

What convinced me to epoxy my bases was an incident with a Browning X-Bolt. It has 4 base screws per base and all were torqued properly when installed. After a hunt, my hunting friend took me out of the forest most of the way to my car parked on the hard road. I had a small pack on my back. When I took the rifle off my back, the sling some way got caught on the pack and yanked the rifle out of my hands. it hit the road on the eye piece/left side of the scope and also had scratches on the left side of the muzzle. I had Butler Creek scope flip covers on the Ziess Conquest 3x9x40 and it did not distort the scope eye piece. When I was able to shoot the rifle, bullet impact was about 6" to the right of where it was sighted in for. I removed the scope (QD rings), closely examined the scope bases and I could see a fine line on the left side of the rear base where, it appeared, the scope base had moved a tiny bit. I don't know if that alone accounted for the 6" sighting error or some of it was caused by the scope adjustment changing, but it was enough to convince me to epoxy my bases to the receiver with no release agent. RJ

Bought some glue today. (JB Weld)
Already have the Talley's, Loctite blue, and an 84L Kimber waiting.

Awesome!

I think someone posted a link to some high speed photography that shows there is definite movement in the bases with 6-48s and nothing else. Most of the time the spring back just fine but in rough handling, there is some movement that is plastic.

Bedding and 8-40s is always a good idea. I find that I can usually snap it loose with a brass punch and no heat. The fact that it is still bonded shows that it did indeed hold. I typically used Devcon 10110 rather than JB. I don't glue the screws. They could be hard to get out. Just use Loctite on the screws themselves.

The latest thing is to pin the rail to the action with dowel pins. This is how my Defiance actions are set up. Very rigid, very removeable.