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Pac Nor I believe was farming out the installation and chambering work so it could vary with which Smith doe's the work. One of my Smiths uses Pac Nor for everything.

As Red Neck and others wrote it is a crap shoot. Worst barrel I have seen came from one of the top manufacturers which can happen to anyone. What PO'd me was they did not even respond when I asked if they could re-bore the barrel. Another big item is how many barrels do they scrap or re-bore? The number is fairly high for shops like Krieger while others mark these as a lower grade. Leica makes such superb lenses as they scrap up to four out of five lenses. I once saw a photo of a sizeable ware house full of reject Leica lenses, these were slated to be re-melted.

The other factor is stress relief. Some shops do this before and after boring and some Cryo the barrels to improve machinability which it does more than reducing stress. Cut rifling induces less stress and then button with hammer forging the most but it can be mostly heat treated out.

Have 240 Weatherby built on Yugo Mauser. A for sure nail driver.

I had one, it shot great!

I have to agree. Any barrel maker can screw up. I had a name brand maker that has been mentioned in this thread ship me a barrel that was obviously bored WAY off center. They weren't very interested in making it good until I asked if they normally put the thick side of their barrels on the bottom or the top and which would they recommend. They said that they would like to see the barrel and then shipped me a new one right out. The new one turned out great.

It's not whether or not you have a problem with a product you make, its how you handle the problem that makes the difference...

It’s as hit and miss, as anything else in the button game. I single point cut rifle is a safer bet but nothing is perfect. If I was looking to flute I would not look at any button rifled tubes. Stress relief is key on the button style and most if not all of those stresses are eliminated on a cut rifle.

Fotis ask Scott to give you a run Down of the difference he was tight with boots and has a bunch of knowledge on the subject.

I have a bunch of button barrels that shoot great but nothing keeps up with the cut stuff. 🙂 and I only flute cut as a rule for my own liking.

Pac Nor - .308 Win - 10 twist
#5 or slightly heavier - Fluted
Redneck (Lee) did the barrel work
Most accurate rifle I've ever owned.
I've lost track of rounds thru it.
I've never ran a patch thru it.
150's, 165's, 180's, it'll put them all right where I ask it to.

I've shot well over 100 PN spouts all but (1) of which was Stainless and I've yet to see anything near a "bad" one,or anything "weird". In a nutshell,they easily remain my favorite spout of all time and my Buttons,have always trumped my Cut. Perhaps the most telling is,that Criterion has absolutely flogged Krieger,as per spouts I own. Hint.

In fairness,I shoot a few Makes of spouts: Criterion,Douglas,Wilson,GM,PN,Hart,Liljee,Bart',Brux,Krieger,Obie,Shilen,LW,McMillan,Schneider,Muller,Rock,BHW,X-Caliber,McGowen...amongst others and if only from the hip. Have "only" run contours from sub #1's to straight 1.350" Bull and of course most stops in between,though only from .17cal to .375". Never have gone longer than 30",nor shorter than 14"(XP-100 Custom). Have fluted 'em initially,as well as after the fact and reduced contour then fluted to boot,with nary anything resembling an "issue". Then again,I needn't ask anybody anything,about barrels and simply have BT/DT and have all the T-shirts. Hint.

'Course I'm a little bit whole bunch good on a Press and even better on a trigger and have long savvied the melding of twist,throating and COAL latitude...which connects more than a few dots and bears more than a little fruit. Hint.

As 500yd+ Egg Rifles go,my top 5 picks from the larder would be Buttoned and only (1) not a PN and it's a Hart. Pardon the flutes. Laughing!

Got some new glass to carve outta parcels,as well as a new stock/DBM to open too and their Button Bound collectively. Now if only the Piece Of Fhuqking Schit Bushie 4.5-18x LRHSi replacement would arrive,along with the mythical CameraLand Geovids,I'd roll some more fhuqking footing to record hilarity in adsvance. Hint. Laughing!

It's never been difficult to cypher,who shoots...and who don't.

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!.......................

No even close to impressed LOL.

Sugar tits! im shocked Doug is taking AK food stamps as payment. But with all the great PR you have given him I’m sure your needs and wants are list topping. 😂

PS once you actually get a kill in this decade please post pictures.
This one is a an favorite. No fur but with the law on the night hunting thing it’s probably tricky.

I have had PAC-NOR put up a half dozen barrels for me. All of them have been good to outstanding. I recently had them do a Kimber 84L 280 AI for me, and it is now one the best shooters I have in the safe. CP.

Thanks for all the information fellas

Bought the LH Win 70 in 270 from Jim he was right did not shoot! Called Pac-Nor they said to send it back and they would rebarrel it in caliber of my choice. Had a SS 9.3 X 62 barrel put on it and it shoots! Could not ask for better customer service!

Also bought Jims LH Model 70 Pac Nor barreled 06 and it is a shooter also!

I contacted Pacnor about the rifle I was having trouble with and they had me send it out to them to diagnose the issue. They said the crown was never finished with a chamfer and the bore was full of burs, plus the barrel was barely on finger tight and the no-go chamber gage fell right in until they got it on there tight.
Same day turn-around and no charge to check out and fix something that they didn't do in the first place.

Kudo's to Pacnor!