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Isn't the GAP based off the RSAUM case and the PRC is based off the Ruger Compact Magnum (RCM) case?

Pat,

I think you have (had?) both.

What advantages does one have over the other?

Which do you prefer?

I reload.

I've got a lot more rounds downrange with the 4S. I'll have to shoot the PRC more before I say. It's one of the reasons I had George build me a PRC.

I doubt if there will be a nickels worth of difference between the two of them when it's all said and done.

I looked hard at the PRC as I do think it’s a cool cartridge but once I realized it gained me only 200 yards over my 6.5 creed when it falls below 1800 fps (143 eldx roughly 850 yards with CM to 1050 yards with PRC) I realized it wasn’t enough difference.

So went with 7 wsm that carries a 30+ grain heavier bullet 1800 fps at 1250 yards

If I didn’t have the 6.5 fanboy already though the PRC def would be a candidate but trying to avoid too much overlap these days.

I got one cuz I like to say CREED. Then the Fugger shoots unbelievable, making me a fanboy. I also got a 26 Nosler. But I don’t like to say NOSLER...😜😎

I got one cuz I like to say CREED. Then the Fugger shoots unbelievable, making me a fanboy. I also got a 26 Nosler. But I don’t like to say NOSLER...😜😎

Ballisically, the 6.5 PRC is about equal the 6.5/284.....I prefer the looks or design of the 6.5/284 casing a little bit better. The 6.5/284 will more than likely be my next and my very first 6.5....

I'm all Creed 'd out. E Nuff already.....lol......................................

Testing my new Silencerco Omega suppressor today.....nice surprise that it enhanced the accuracy....at least at 100 yards.

Nice, light, compact unit. Felt recoil was less than a .243.

Sweet...what's your OAL with the .135" FB?

Pat, I'm liking your range card. Could you share with me the info on your scope? Thanks
Wishing you the best this hunting season.

Just measured my Skoal can (hair over 2 1/2")... that's some incredible shooting!

could the PRC be built off a WSM action?

Impressive shooting for sure. Never knew it got dead calm in your part of the world.

But the big question is have you got a leather cheekpiece designed for the EH1 yet?

I know it would shoot better.....

I need about 40 hours in a day instead of 24....;)

I need about 40 hours in a day instead of 24....;)

Pat, why don’t you make a short mag cartridge carrier while you’re at it!

Great shooting Pat!! Just curious. You ever run a dedicated copper solvent after the butch’s just to see if anything might be left? I know that a few years ago the butch’s solvent changed and it has been said to be less of a copper cleaner now.

I always look after I'm done with my Hawkeye bore scope...this barrel is 100% copper free right now. Barrels vary, some will build a trace, while still shooting great, others will be completely clean. I've found after the throats start getting some wear and tear, the lands will have an orange peel look,(rough)and they will build copper, and carbon there. I can still get it out with a good scrubbing with a bronze brush.

I'm not real big on cleaning very often. It the rifle is shooting good, I'll run it, and not worry too much about it. I did a test one time with one of my comp .308's. I cleaned it, shot three five shot groups, then didn't clean it for over 1,000 rounds, then before cleaning it, fired three more five shot groups. All six groups looked the same. That was a Krieger 1-11.25" 5R. It still shot good after 8,000+ rounds. I think there's been a lot of barrels wrecked by cleaning too often..

You mean like this one? Put together for, and by, yours truly....;)

Just like that!

Is that a prototype or will those ever be in production?

[ I think there's been a lot of barrels wrecked by cleaning too often..

Check our website sometime this winter....it's in the works.

If my memory serves me correctly i'll try and give what I know.

George Gardner of GAP developed the 6.5 SAUM 4s it was designed to be the ultimate short action cartridge as well as offer optimal ballistics for the PRS series which has a velocity cap of 3200ft/sec I believe. Part of the design philosophy was to run long barrels with slow powders(H1000) to get the velocity rather than wringing the performance out by high pressures which ultimately attributes to excellent barrel life in proportion to the performance delivered. The one caveat of the 4s is currently hornady is the only brass available (some form brass from 7 saum norma brass and ect...)

The 6.5 PRC to my understanding was a Hornady/Ruger project that George of GAP helped work on. it too is aimed at the PRS market and is built with similar design principles of the 4s but uses the RCM (ruger compact magnum) as it's parent case rather than the SAUM. The 4s has slightly more capacity over the RCM.

For general purposes there so similar you could likely flip a coin and choose one. The big difference that I see is the RCM is backed by Ruger and Hornady so it could potentially go further in the market just due to the backing of such a giants. don't get me wrong the 4s has it's followers but most who run the 4s have to coin to spring for the best. the PRC could bring a new crowd into the ever growing sport especially when off the shelf guns like Ruger RPR hit the market.

Pat, would you mind measuring the c.o.a.l. with that 139gr Scenar for me? I don't have a way of measuring to the ogive.

Thanks, Rio7

It's a 3-12X50 S&B PMII, single turn, w/o lit reticle. Those scopes were speced and manufactured for Accuracy International, by S&B, and were distributed by Ashbury corp.

I'm not Pat, but I think this will help. 2.885 COAL Or it could be real close.
Take care

Pat,
I may have missed this. What rings are you using with that scope? They look nice and are sleeker than the Seekins 34mm lows.
Thanks!

...I think it turned out great. I shall name him Percy. Short for P.R.C. McBighorn. My new Irish stepchild.