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I would get stainless and synthetic.


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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
To get back on track, the criteria are as follows:

1. 3 rifles that have the same type of action in .22LR, 223, and 6.5 Creedmoor.
2. 3 rifles that are approximately the same size, weight and length, and as close to the same physical specs as possible and still fall within the budget.
3. 3 scopes that are the same make/model/magnification.
4. The primary components, the rifles and the scopes, must be new and readily available over the counter.
5. The budget ceiling is a hard $1,800.

The point of buying a .22 rifle with the same weight and action style as the coyote and deer hunting rifles is so that the boy can fire a thousand or more rounds of inexpensive bulk pack .22 LR at paper targets before he shoots either of the centerfire rifles and will be used to the weight, length, safety location, etc.


I am not a big fan of the Ruger American rifles but in this case they would serve the purpose. It would take some careful shopping but he should be able to get into the three rifles for less than $1200.00 for all three, that leaves $600 for three scopes, which is doable - I was in a gun shop the other day that had the Leupold Freedom 3x9 for $179.00 but even full retail on the is only $199.00 so even at retail he could slide in just under budget. That would set him up with three nearly identical rifles and scopes.

Speaking of the Leupold Freedom scope - they define UGLY. I have to wonder what Leupold was thinking when they came up with that abortion of turret housing design.

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I would have to agree with drover especially since you want the weight and feel as close as possible for that price.

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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Check, check, check, check, and ... check :-)

No idea why the ebay link to the FFII didn’t hyperlink.



I agree with you on the FFII. One of my favorite hunting scopes is the FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex. It will work on all those rifles the OP is insinuating his friend has to have..


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Check, check, check, check, and ... check :-)

No idea why the ebay link to the FFII didn’t hyperlink.



I agree with you on the FFII. One of my favorite hunting scopes is the FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex. It will work on all those rifles the OP is insinuating his friend has to have..


Do you know what the definition of "insinuating" is?

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Check, check, check, check, and ... check :-)

No idea why the ebay link to the FFII didn’t hyperlink.



I agree with you on the FFII. One of my favorite hunting scopes is the FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex. It will work on all those rifles the OP is insinuating his friend has to have..


Do you know what the definition of "insinuating" is?


Maybe he meant insisting?


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by Hamrick
Maybe go with the Ruger American 22. That way pretty much same rifle for all three and no surprises for the kid.


that sounds like a winner


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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Check, check, check, check, and ... check :-)

No idea why the ebay link to the FFII didn’t hyperlink.



I agree with you on the FFII. One of my favorite hunting scopes is the FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex. It will work on all those rifles the OP is insinuating his friend has to have..


Do you know what the definition of "insinuating" is?



I sure the FU CK do: imply, suggest, hint, indicate, let it be known... Does that sound about right?? John (79s) was also right when he said insisting. The OP is doing both.. This chit isn't rocket science. Keep it simple for fu cks sake.. I guess you are butt hurt because I implied the Remington 700 (circa 2018) is a POS. Their QC sucks big time man.... Sorry to break it to you, but facts is facts..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by Hamrick
Maybe go with the Ruger American 22. That way pretty much same rifle for all three and no surprises for the kid.


that sounds like a winner


and 3 leupold 4x33 scopes

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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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1. Rock River Varmint 223
2. 6.5 Creedmoor
3. 338 Win mag

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Originally Posted by hanco
1. Rock River Varmint 223
2. 6.5 Creedmoor
3. 338 Win mag




Ha, ha, ha.........

I love this place! If a person asked for the best way to travel from Chicago to Peoria, he'd likely be told that he should travel to Detroit instead of Peoria.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by hanco
1. Rock River Varmint 223
2. 6.5 Creedmoor
3. 338 Win mag




Ha, ha, ha.........

I love this place! If a person asked for the best way to travel from Chicago to Peoria, he'd likely be told that he should travel to Detroit instead of Peoria.


Why aren't they going to Nashville?

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by hanco
1. Rock River Varmint 223
2. 6.5 Creedmoor
3. 338 Win mag




Ha, ha, ha.........

I love this place! If a person asked for the best way to travel from Chicago to Peoria, he'd likely be told that he should travel to Detroit instead of Peoria.

What are you insinuating?

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Remington 700 ADL and a Ruger American shouldn’t be in the same sentence.


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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by hanco
1. Rock River Varmint 223
2. 6.5 Creedmoor
3. 338 Win mag




Ha, ha, ha.........

I love this place! If a person asked for the best way to travel from Chicago to Peoria, he'd likely be told that he should travel to Detroit instead of Peoria.

What are you insinuating?


That sometimes some of the advice that is offered is about as useful as a rubber crutch.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Remington 700 ADL and a Ruger American shouldn’t be in the same sentence.


Why?

They are both bolt action centerfire rifles with matte CM metal and injection molded synthetic stocks that typically sell in the same $300 to $400 market niche.

My most recent Remington 700s have "EL" (10/17) and "AM" (03/18) assembly codes and both seem fine. Not without faults, but they only cost $430 per unit and since I had intended to restock them and change them from ADL to BDL format when I bought them, those additional costs were factored into the decision process.

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I picked up one of the Zastava .22s on sale last year and other than the checkering looking like it was cut by a Parkinson's patient with a rusty butter knife I've been very happy with it. Nice bluing, decent wood and it handles/feels a lot more like a center fire.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Remington 700 ADL and a Ruger American shouldn’t be in the same sentence.


Why?

They are both bolt action centerfire rifles with matte CM metal and injection molded synthetic stocks that typically sell in the same $300 to $400 market niche.

My most recent Remington 700s have "EL" (10/17) and "AM" (03/18) assembly codes and both seem fine. Not without faults, but they only cost $430 per unit and since I had intended to restock them and change them from ADL to BDL format when I bought them, those additional costs were factored into the decision process.



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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by hanco
1. Rock River Varmint 223
2. 6.5 Creedmoor
3. 338 Win mag




Ha, ha, ha.........

I love this place! If a person asked for the best way to travel from Chicago to Peoria, he'd likely be told that he should travel to Detroit instead of Peoria.

What are you insinuating?


That sometimes some of the advice that is offered is about as useful as a rubber crutch.

I know, and agree. It was a play on earlier posts without a sarcasm smiley.

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I’d change the scopes to 6X MQ SWFA SS, and the rings to Burris signature XTR, but that’s about it.


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