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Looks like its going to cost more for the Chinese people to eat. Better start growing soybean.


China is already switching grain suppliers; US farmers will be the losers. And, these are long-term agreements, so it will be difficult for US farmers to recover these lost sales for many years.




So these other grain suppliers can pick up China and still full fill current obligations?



Yes. The US is the 4th largest grain producing nation and those hat produce more are stepping up production. US production will be missed, but others are stepping up and increasing production.
see: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-wheat-producing-countries.html

Additionally, Wisconsin dairy farmers and cheese makers will be hurt as they export cheese.
see: http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Wi...-of-Trade-War-and-tariffs-488342881.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-us-tariff-impact-on-wisconsin-cheese-industry/

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This is self inflicted and completely unnecessary damage. Life is hard, Toot. It's harder when you're stupid.


When it comes to harder and stupid, I’ll leave that you, Doc. BTW, you need to run now as I hear one of your patients screaming.


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Originally Posted by djs
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Looks like its going to cost more for the Chinese people to eat. Better start growing soybean.


China is already switching grain suppliers; US farmers will be the losers. And, these are long-term agreements, so it will be difficult for US farmers to recover these lost sales for many years.


Wrong. These are not long term agreements. You may recall a few yrs back when China gave a good head fake saying we are cutting our corn purchases by 60%, corn dropped, China then bought all they needed at the lower price and then made money through a shell organization that went short on corn futures prior to the announcement of buying less.

They ain’t dumb. They believe in “China First”. Ring a bell for ya, just maybe?


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You poor old fool. There's still time for you to board the Trump Express. 6 1/2 more years to be exact.........

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You poor old fool. There's still time for you to board the Trump Express. 6 1/2 more years to be exact.........

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Bangladesh, so at least it's not Chinese........... eek


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Commies don't deserve to own enough land to lose $150K on any damn crop.

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Sounds like time to buy American ....


Atv, my 2cousins and I have some soybeans we can sell you. Didn’t fool with corn this year and will double crop with wheat if the weather holds. All of it American quality.


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I don't like tariffs of any kind. They are too discriminate, helping one person, while they hurt another. I own a farm, and a lot of my income comes from that farm. The neighbor who rents the cropland has about 100 acres in soybeans here, and I want him to make money, because if he does, then he can keep leasing my land at the current rate. If crop prices go down, then he won't be able to keep paying me at that rate.

What helps some person in the steel industry, is of little concern to me, and I'm sure he has little compassion for the farmers. China will benefit, America will pay the price.

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I don't like tariffs of any kind. They are too discriminate, helping one person, while they hurt another. I own a farm, and a lot of my income comes from that farm. The neighbor who rents the cropland has about 100 acres in soybeans here, and I want him to make money, because if he does, then he can keep leasing my land at the current rate. If crop prices go down, then he won't be able to keep paying me at that rate.

What helps some person in the steel industry, is of little concern to me, and I'm sure he has little compassion for the farmers. China will benefit, America will pay the price.


James just the boys talking here but you might consider partnering with that guy. We started in 1971 with a leased 440 acres, hit it big at 13$/bushel and 38 bushels/acre. Big for us just starting out. Now up to 2200 acres and got part of that by partnering with the landowner giving him the 1st 10 bushels off every acre saving us the initial rental fee upfront. A big risk but Mother Nature blessed us. Some years we were able to beat the clock and doubled down with winter wheat.
There are other ways, too. I’m now pretty much out of the active part of it, gradually fading to the background. Can’t say I miss it.


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
I don't like tariffs of any kind. They are too discriminate, helping one person, while they hurt another. I own a farm, and a lot of my income comes from that farm. The neighbor who rents the cropland has about 100 acres in soybeans here, and I want him to make money, because if he does, then he can keep leasing my land at the current rate. If crop prices go down, then he won't be able to keep paying me at that rate.

What helps some person in the steel industry, is of little concern to me, and I'm sure he has little compassion for the farmers. China will benefit, America will pay the price.


I don't like tariffs either. If America can get every country it trades with to stop sticking America in the ass with them it would be a better world.

Until then,..what's good for the goose has to be good for the gander.

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Originally Posted by djs
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Looks like its going to cost more for the Chinese people to eat. Better start growing soybean.


China is already switching grain suppliers; US farmers will be the losers. And, these are long-term agreements, so it will be difficult for US farmers to recover these lost sales for many years.




So these other grain suppliers can pick up China and still full fill current obligations?



Yes. The US is the 4th largest grain producing nation and those hat produce more are stepping up production. US production will be missed, but others are stepping up and increasing production.
see: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/top-wheat-producing-countries.html

Additionally, Wisconsin dairy farmers and cheese makers will be hurt as they export cheese.
see: http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Wi...-of-Trade-War-and-tariffs-488342881.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-us-tariff-impact-on-wisconsin-cheese-industry/


dairy fsrmers are going out of bsuiness daily thanks to NAFTA and the parts of it that require us to buy so many hundreds of thousands of gallons of raw milk from canada every year, all while they have been imposing a tarrif on US dairy goods of 237%

let alone the red tape and horseshidt creameries here have to go theough to ship over seas


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Commodities have always been a risky business. Politics, weather, bad seed, and now beans are suffering a worm infestation, same for sweet corn and grain corn.

You need to stick to medicine, Doc.

If he is actually a doc, there ain't no way I'd let the dumb SOB around me.


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Originally Posted by JamesJr
I don't like tariffs of any kind. They are too discriminate, helping one person, while they hurt another. I own a farm, and a lot of my income comes from that farm. The neighbor who rents the cropland has about 100 acres in soybeans here, and I want him to make money, because if he does, then he can keep leasing my land at the current rate. If crop prices go down, then he won't be able to keep paying me at that rate.

What helps some person in the steel industry, is of little concern to me, and I'm sure he has little compassion for the farmers. China will benefit, America will pay the price.

Well ain't that sweet, worried about your own self, while not worried at all about folks in the steel industry. No wonder we are in the shape we are in. Way to many NIMBYs'


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I don't like tariffs of any kind. They are too discriminate, helping one person, while they hurt another. I own a farm, and a lot of my income comes from that farm. The neighbor who rents the cropland has about 100 acres in soybeans here, and I want him to make money, because if he does, then he can keep leasing my land at the current rate. If crop prices go down, then he won't be able to keep paying me at that rate.

What helps some person in the steel industry, is of little concern to me, and I'm sure he has little compassion for the farmers. China will benefit, America will pay the price.

Well ain't that sweet, worried about your own self, while not worried at all about folks in the steel industry. No wonder we are in the shape we are in. Way to many NIMBYs'



I don't figure too many of them are worried about the farmers, so there ya go. By the way, you can't eat steel.

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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I don't like tariffs of any kind. They are too discriminate, helping one person, while they hurt another. I own a farm, and a lot of my income comes from that farm. The neighbor who rents the cropland has about 100 acres in soybeans here, and I want him to make money, because if he does, then he can keep leasing my land at the current rate. If crop prices go down, then he won't be able to keep paying me at that rate.

What helps some person in the steel industry, is of little concern to me, and I'm sure he has little compassion for the farmers. China will benefit, America will pay the price.


James just the boys talking here but you might consider partnering with that guy. We started in 1971 with a leased 440 acres, hit it big at 13$/bushel and 38 bushels/acre. Big for us just starting out. Now up to 2200 acres and got part of that by partnering with the landowner giving him the 1st 10 bushels off every acre saving us the initial rental fee upfront. A big risk but Mother Nature blessed us. Some years we were able to beat the clock and doubled down with winter wheat.
There are other ways, too. I’m now pretty much out of the active part of it, gradually fading to the background. Can’t say I miss it.


Toot, I farmed for a long time, grew soybeans, corn, wheat, and tobacco. I'm content to raise cattle on part of the farm, and to let someone else worry about the row crops. My son wants us to go back to cropping it ourselves, but I don't want to invest in the necessary equipment, nor take the risks involved. I'll just let someone else worry about the weather and low prices, and let him cash rent it.

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