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I did a google search and came away more confused than enlightened.

What's the principle difference?


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Isn't the GAP based off the RSAUM case and the PRC is based off the Ruger Compact Magnum (RCM) case?


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Originally Posted by tdbob
Isn't the GAP based off the RSAUM case and the PRC is based off the Ruger Compact Magnum (RCM) case?


That is correct, and they are not interchangeable...


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Pat,

I think you have (had?) both.

What advantages does one have over the other?


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About the same difference as that between a 243 win and 6mm creedmoor.

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The GAP will be a bit faster,but the goal of the PRC was to meet a velocity threshold with good factory ammo.

Wanted to add,whether that goal has yet been achieved is debatable.

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I looked hard at the PRC as I do think it’s a cool cartridge but once I realized it gained me only 200 yards over my 6.5 creed when it falls below 1800 fps (143 eldx roughly 850 yards with CM to 1050 yards with PRC) I realized it wasn’t enough difference.

So went with 7 wsm that carries a 30+ grain heavier bullet 1800 fps at 1250 yards wink

If I didn’t have the 6.5 fanboy already though the PRC def would be a candidate but trying to avoid too much overlap these days.

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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Pat,

I think you have (had?) both.

What advantages does one have over the other?



If you don't reload, you can own a high performance short action rifle for competing, or hunting.

FWIW, Prime will be offering factory loaded ammunition for the 4S sometime this fall. Norma will produce the brass...


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Which do you prefer?

I reload.


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Which do you prefer?

I reload.



I've got a lot more rounds downrange with the 4S. I'll have to shoot the PRC more before I say. It's one of the reasons I had George build me a PRC.

I doubt if there will be a nickels worth of difference between the two of them when it's all said and done.


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
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Which do you prefer?

I reload.



I've got a lot more rounds downrange with the 4S. I'll have to shoot the PRC more before I say. It's one of the reasons I had George build me a PRC.

I doubt if there will be a nickels worth of difference between the two of them when it's all said and done.


The way I heard George explain it was that if you are an anal reloader and want to squeeze every fps out,get the 4S, but if you are fine with 90-95% of the performance and want factory loads then the PRC is a better choice. I don't think the full vision will be reached until we have a lot more chamberings and factory loads though. I did hear that Norma was going to load for it.

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IMO if you use a M5 inlet DBM with mags, go 4S
With BDL bottom metal, go PRC


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And if bdl, go Wyatts ext box in a SA....

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Originally Posted by alaska_lanche
I looked hard at the PRC as I do think it’s a cool cartridge but once I realized it gained me only 200 yards over my 6.5 creed when it falls below 1800 fps (143 eldx roughly 850 yards with CM to 1050 yards with PRC) I realized it wasn’t enough difference.

So went with 7 wsm that carries a 30+ grain heavier bullet 1800 fps at 1250 yards wink

If I didn’t have the 6.5 fanboy already though the PRC def would be a candidate but trying to avoid too much overlap these days.


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I got one cuz I like to say CREED. Then the Fugger shoots unbelievable, making me a fanboy. I also got a 26 Nosler. But I don’t like to say NOSLER...😜😎


Still have nightmares from the box, huh? smile


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ok, have to ask, what is "4S"?


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With out a main stream factory rifle being produced both the Gap & PRC are going no where. No matter what redeeming qualities they have , they absolutely require competitively priced factory rifles. Other wise it is an expensive alternative to other competitively factory produced rifle's. This lack of factory produced rifles is a killer. Ruger & Savage have both said no to either cartridge. Remington is dealing with bankruptcy & will not produce any cartridge that isn't a for sure seller. Winchester, very unlikely. No matter how much you love the Gap & PRC reality in the market place determines if a cartridge lives or dies.

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This I find strange as Ruger is the developer of the brass that become the PRC. Just no telling what companies do and won't do.Cheers NC


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