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i have a 28 Nosler on the way and am pondering bullets to use in it. My rifle has a 1:8 twist and is throated for the 195’s. The last owner states it shoots very well with both the 195 EOL’s and the 180 Eld-m.
In playing with Ballistic AE it appears that the 180 ELD-m beats the 195 EOL in velocity, energy, drop and drift.
It seems that most guys are using the 195’s in the 28N and I am sure there is a reason but I am having trouble finding that reason.
Help me out here guys, why the 195 EOL over the 180 Eld-m?
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I would shoot 150 Nosler partitions. 🤪
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I haven't looked at the said boolits, don't the 195's have higher BC?
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Unless you shooting chit over 1k, don't fret the stupid stuff...
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MallardAddict, what numbers are you using for BC(s)?
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I would shoot 150 Nosler partitions. 🤪 Nope I’m going with 139 IB per sharp things recommendation. He’s a real killer after all unlike you couch surfers.... 🙄 Both the 180’s and 195’s appear to shoot in the .2’s from pics I’ve been sent. Hopefully rifle arrives this week as bear opens here 08/01 and we have a few located that would be prime targets for this rifle.
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MallardAddict, what numbers are you using for BC(s)? 180’s I’m using .393 g7 at 3140 FPS ( dope from previous owner) 195’s I’m using .387 g7 at 3050fps (also from previous owner) My ballistic app shows that at least on paper the 180’s are superior so I was curious why everyone seems to prefer the 195’s.
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Some people don't trust the ELD-M. My rifle shoots the 195EOL extremely well and I've always had great results on game with berger bullets. Hope to be able to use the 195 on an elk this season.
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.648 Bc for 175g LRAB...They’re easier to find in stock than Bergers. (This is the revamped Bc numbers by Nosler) 😎
Maybe try some “Fletchettes” to impress Shart Shorts. 🤔
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MallardAddict, what numbers are you using for BC(s)? 180’s I’m using .393 g7 at 3140 FPS ( dope from previous owner) 195’s I’m using .387 g7 at 3050fps (also from previous owner) My ballistic app shows that at least on paper the 180’s are superior so I was curious why everyone seems to prefer the 195’s. Those BC(s) were calculated using the previous owner’s DOPE?
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[Those BC(s) were calculated using the previous owner’s DOPE? Correct, those bc’s were reportedly what he came up with from his DOPE corrections after calibrating chart to 800yds. The rifle is set to arrive only days before our bear area opens so I’m trying to make a decision on where to start since the previous owner has loads for both bullets. Since both bullets shot well in CO I have no doubts they will shoot here in WA. Of course I will have to tweak the drops to my AO.
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I’ve gone from the 195’s to the 180’s. I haven’t killed anything with the 180 yet, that I can recall, but it comes from killing lineage, a la 162 AM...
The 195’s work fine on flesh IME.
Each rifle’s a bit different, but 0.401 G7 works well for the 180 in my rifles...
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I’ve gone from the 195’s to the 180’s. I haven’t killed anything with the 180 yet, that I can recall, but it comes from killing lineage, a la 162 AM...
The 195’s work fine on flesh IME.
Each rifle’s a bit different, but 0.401 G7 works well for the 180 in my rifles... Why’d you switch?
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Exterior ballistics, cost, accuracy. I’m confident both will kill, but the 180 was the winner in the other categories.
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I would go with the most accurate.
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I shoot 140 grain Ballistic tip in my 7mm ultra mag.
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