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Jordan,

What twist did you need to stabilize the 195s?

Why 195’s when 180 eld is better BC, and better velocity???

I believe Jordan went back to the 180 Eld. I’ve got 195’s on the bench to play with as my rifle came with them but I’m pretty set on sticking with the 180’s long term.

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Thanks Jordan. Got any pics of the rifle?

In a 28 Nosler... 1:8.6” or faster depending on altitude.

At about 45F and 2500 feet ASL I was able to stabilize the 195's in a 9" twist 7-08, a 9.5" twist 7WSM, and an 8" twist 7WSM, but they tumbled out of my 9.5" twist 7-08. I'm sure the BC was compromised with an SG of anything lower than about 1.5.

I shot the 195's when they first came out. As soon as the 180 was developed and I had a chance to try it, I sold off most of my stock of 195's, and haven't looked back since...

I'll take a better pic tomorrow of its current configuration, but here's a pic that I had from early on.

My 28 Nosler has a 1:8 Proof throated to 195’s so I can shoot any of the high BC choices. It just so happens that the 180 eld-m fits great in the 195 throat. Sexy looking bastards at 3.725” that’s for sure.

Nice Mallard!!! That'll be a hammer no dount!!

That appears to be very similar to where that same bullet sits in the neck of my 7 WSM. Its just that mine is a just under a 1/2" shorter COAL.

I'd would still be wary of impact velocities over 2600 fps with the 180 ELD. Not so much with the 195 VLD or 180 Scenar. If I chop my 7mm down to 19" and thread it, I may get my velocity low enough that the 180 ELD might perform better again.

Good to know....go some pics of what happened to you when impacts exceeded 2600?

Softball sized entrance on mule deer ribs at 380 yards. Had a rodeo with a black bear at 300. Had good performance at 650 yards on a nice whitetail buck and sub 2600 fps. Think I deleted the pic on the mule deer but will post it if I can find it. Small sample size but something to be aware of I think.

This is good info and strikes at the heart of my own deliberation between the 195 EOL vs the 175 ELD-X or 180 ELD-M. I want a bullet that's going to work at 50 yards and 650 yards.

I committed to the 175 eldx for this year. Push come to shove I can def eat the BC difference for a still great BC bullet. Have had great experience with the eldx in the 6.5 and 178 in the 300 wsm so its s know entity. That said I am gonna shoot the 147 this year but muzzle velcoties out of the 18-20” barrels are only 2720 fps so likely fair better.

my 28N landed. Scoped and with a full magazine it goes 9lb 7oz. Enough weight to be steady but not overly heavy for packing. I’m headed out for its maiden voyage here in an hour or so.

My experience with the 180 eld-m last year was good but I may still go 195 EOL or 175 eld-x to get a little more bullet strength.

Details?

It’s nothing too crazy. Trued and timed 700 action, bdl bottom metal, Bix n Andy Tacsport, McMillan Gamescout edge, Proof Carbon barrel, beast brake, nxs 5.5-22.

The 180 eld-m loads that came with the gun were hovering around .3 and going 3125fps. Stout load but not crazy and sd was 7. Thinking it will be my primary hunting rifle this year just to see what it will do.

Found that entrance hole for the 180 ELD-M going over 2600 fps on a mule deer buck. Nothing but ribs hit and this is the entrance wound. I'll pass.