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Anyone use a Ruger #1 for Cape Buffalo ? I own a 416 Rigby and a 458 Lott both Ruger # 1`s so I was considering the 458 Lott ? I have shot these 2 # 1 rifles and recoil wasn`t that bad to me.

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Originally Posted by pete53
Anyone use a Ruger #1 for Cape Buffalo ? I own a 416 Rigby and a 458 Lott both Ruger # 1`s so I was considering the 458 Lott ? I have shot these 2 # 1 rifles and recoil wasn`t that bad to me.


Got a friend who has BTDT and hes a #1 fan, our own JB got a buffalo with a #1 in .375

No reason you shouldn't...


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Ok, for whats it's worth, here is my Choice;

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Originally Posted by ingwe
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So this question was going to come up soon or later. Is a control round feed for a cape buffalo needed? I can understand equipment in the way pastof had some issues of reliability but is that still the case? I have never had an issue with any of my 700's and I have shot my .338 Win Mag for 16 yrs. with no issue. I have a few 700's and Howa's (Wby Vanguard) I could rebarrel to 375 Ruger. I have no issue going the Winchester model 70 route and I have thought about the Kimber Talkeetna too.


A 700 would work just fine if thats what you are used to. Jorge and I have this back and forth thing we do between 700s ( which I like) and Weatherbys ( which he likes)...they work for each of us respectively.Whatever you choose shoot it a LOT before you go. Repeat. A LOT.

Dont spend more $$$$ on a rifle that you could be spending on your hunt instead...Spend the $$$ on ammo/handloading and practice!


I chose a Mauser action on a Whitworth, but I wouldnt balk at a 700 and FWIW my PH ( for Jorges sake...) used a Weatherby MK V in .460 for a backup ( mainly because it was given to him for free...snork!)



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Originally Posted by C_ROY
So this question was going to come up soon or later. Is a control round feed for a cape buffalo needed? I can understand equipment in the way past may of had some issues of reliability but is that still the case? I have never had an issue with any of my 700's and I have shot my .338 Win Mag for 16 yrs. with no issue. I have a few 700's and Howa's (Wby Vanguard) I could rebarrel to 375 Ruger. I have no issue going the Winchester model 70 route and I have thought about the Kimber Talkeetna too.


anything besides a kimber!

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...but I would like the same type safety on each preferably a three position one.


This would be one of my primary objectives...no patience for a bolt that will not lock down.

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I'm a Rem 700 guy, but I took my cape buff with a borrowed Winchester pre 64 model 70 in 375 H&H and I would do the exact same thing again if given a choice.

Having said that, just go with whatever you are instinctively led to use. If you make a good first shot, everything else really won't matter anyway.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Given a choice,I would pick the classic style.


My choice is the classic European hogs back style.

CZ550 Safari fits me well and recoil from .458 at full tilt boogie is no problem, even off the bench. Have not had opportunity to use it in Africa though.

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If you like the fit and feel of your current stock, and it handles the recoil of the 338 effectively for you, I would stay the course. The 375's and 416's that I've owned have not been any worse in felt recoil than any of the 338 mags that I've fired. You've shot off sticks and have a sense of how good this works for you. There is value in that experience.
My experience is that stock fit plays a big role in field shooting and felt recoil. A well placed first shot is more important than rapid repeat shots. True quick pointing is more important than followup quick shooting.
If the current stock works for you, it might do well as your dedicated buffalo rifle. I would think the same would apply to the action of the rifle. The location and movement of the safety and bolt, the feel of the trigger and the balance, in my mind, are very important for field shooting.
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Originally Posted by mooshoo
Originally Posted by C_ROY
So this question was going to come up soon or later. Is a control round feed for a cape buffalo needed? I can understand equipment in the way past may of had some issues of reliability but is that still the case? I have never had an issue with any of my 700's and I have shot my .338 Win Mag for 16 yrs. with no issue. I have a few 700's and Howa's (Wby Vanguard) I could rebarrel to 375 Ruger. I have no issue going the Winchester model 70 route and I have thought about the Kimber Talkeetna too.


anything besides a kimber!


I think the CRF issue is not as plausible as it once was. Both Sako and Howa utilize the M16 extractor, considered one of the most reliable there is in a push feed receiver. When military designs are incorporated into hunting rifles it is for reliability and safety. I am not aware of any failures on the M16 extractor. It is considered much better than the Remington design. In fact there are now M16 extractor conversions kits for Remington bolts.

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