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On this mornings news I saw that the Prime Minister has told one of his ministers (Bill Blair, former Toronto chief of police) to look into the possibility of banning all handguns and assault rifles. To begin with my understanding of a true assault rifle is one capable of full automatic fire. Such rifles are already prohibited here in Canada.

There have been rumours for some time that this has been the Prime Minister's intention for some time. Now he has finally come out into the open.

The handgun proposal can be laid at the feet of the numerous persons shooting others in Toronto this year. From the news reports I have seen both the victims and shooters seem to be predominantly black. Maybe we should ban blacks to take care of the problem.

I think the Prime Minister will find he has opened a huge can of worms with this proposal.

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Hope you guys have enough numbers on the left to get this shut down!

Sheesh....good luck Canadians!


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We'll need it since we have a Liberal government (read Democrat light).

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Yeah. Itll be a fight.

Someone will start going on about "the children"....

It's very difficult to own a handgun up there any way....isn't it?


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Maybe this will be good?

Big can of worms and all....might just be something to hang round their necks and sink them.


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[quote=Jim_Conrad ......

It's very difficult to own a handgun up there any way....isn't it?[/quote]

Yes we are very limited as to what we can do with a handgun. Basically limited to using them at a firing range. Transport is controlled. No hunting with them. Concealed carry is almost non-existent. Anyone coming here from the US would go nuts.

Personally I no longer own handguns (I got out of them about 35 years ago) primarily due to the restrictions on their use.

These days the only ones who seem to freely use handguns are the gang bangers in Toronto. I don't know what the problem is since they seem to primarily be culling their own numbers or those who associate with them. Comments from police acquaintances lay a lot of blame on judges who treat criminal violators too lightly.

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It actually shows just how smart the politicians are....

Laws already covering, Licensing, transportation, dangerous use, murder, possession of restricted or prohibited firearm etc so why would a criminal give 2 [bleep] about another law? Stupid is rampant here....


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They just want to disarm us, period.

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Originally Posted by 673
They just want to disarm us, period.

Bingo!

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
It's very difficult to own a handgun up there any way....isn't it?

It's a hassle to own a handgun here. Legal owners have to pass safety courses (PAL & RPAL), jump background check hoops and their guns registered. AR rifles are the same.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Yeah. Itll be a fight.

Someone will start going on about "the children"....

It's very difficult to own a handgun up there any way....isn't it?


I have owned handguns continually since 1971. Gotta follow the rules but it is easy to buy restricted and prohibited handguns with the right licence.


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Trudeau has botched almost everything he has touched, and his popularity has gone downhill in the polls. So he trots this out about a year in front of the next election because voters in the big cities are very concerned about all the gun violence in the cities and may be willing to forget his incompetencies to get rid of handguns. This completely overlooks the fact that 82% of gun crimes are with illegal weapons ( from last gun debates) and there are apparently no plans to do anything about that only to take guns away from law abiding citizens. This move also boxes in or aligns the conservative party with gun owners and will likely assure the liberals a lot of support in the big cites. The liberals sure know how to win elections, but in my opinion sure don't know how to govern a country.

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The worst part is, you can show them past history of gun control not working, they don't care!!!!!!???????? It's all about votes!!!! They don't want facts, which boils down to, ( I don't reallycare about the country) I just want to get voted in again!!$$$$ if I was younger I'd move so far north no one could find me, great now I'm pissed for the night, sorry I'm out, 🐾👣🐾👣

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Sorry to hear this.


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Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
[quote=Jim_Conrad ......


These days the only ones who seem to freely use handguns are the gang bangers in Toronto. I don't know what the problem is since they seem to primarily be culling their own numbers or those who associate with them. Comments from police acquaintances lay a lot of blame on judges who treat criminal violators too lightly.

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Gee, there too?

who'd a thunk it.

Speaking from your Provincial Cousin, California, where we also have such judges.

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Originally Posted by 673
They just want to disarm us, period.



Very much like the USA...it all has NOTHING to do with crime, its about controlling the populace.

I would like very much to think that when the time comes, we will just say "no"......there are 370 million known guns in circulation in the states...amongst 317 million people. Who exactly are they going to send after us to enforce it, should it come to that. Out of that, there will be a tiny percentage ( Yet still numbering in the millions) who would fight to the death...knowing well the consequence of a disarmed citizenry.

I only hope our Canadian brothers would for once quit being so obliging, and do the same.


Historically in other countries gun registration leads to confiscation, almost invariably.

Confiscation leads to genocide,almost invariably.

Do not allow it to happen.

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Originally Posted by GWPGUY
The worst part is, you can show them past history of gun control not working, they don't care!!!!!!???????? It's all about votes!!!! They don't want facts, which boils down to, ( I don't reallycare about the country) I just want to get voted in again!!$$$$ if I was younger I'd move so far north no one could find me, great now I'm pissed for the night, sorry I'm out, 🐾👣🐾👣


As long as citizens are armed in any way, politicians aren't free to safely go forward with their real agenda. Just banning and confiscating your weapons won't fly, so you get this drip drip drip approach. We've pretty much stopped that here and actually rolled back a lot of stuff, but they never quit, hence the need to pack our courts with good judges, support pro-gun organizations, and stay on top of what they're up to. Once you get on that slippery slope, you end up like Britain with licenses for airguns and bans on sales of kitchen knives, while criminals run amok because citizens are forbidden to resist crime. Total lunacy.

Here in WV, anyone legally allowed to possess firearms can carry, open or concealed, with or without a permit, yet for some reason we haven't had any mass shootings, or knife or acid attacks on our streets. Must be all that Oxy we take!


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ingwe, I have always thought the underlying premise to disarm us is.....So that we will be more compliant when they get rid of borders and allow scumbags/Muslims to roam freely through our homeland taking liberties with all we have here. It would be a mistake to think that many Canadians would be so compliant, I wont, and I know of many that know the truth behind disarming us, mostly due to our cousins down south giving the heads up for why the need to disarm us in the first place.
Its this UN driven agenda under the guise of peace, nothing peaceful about it, and the government we have here now is the best puppet that the enemies of freedom could want, lol, foreigners are now proposing and making up laws in our country,, and they weren't even born here!

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The second amendment to our constitution is there to allow citizens to protect themselves from a corrupt and over reaching government. Once they have your firearms they can do what they want to you. If we allow the left to water down the second amendment with left leaning judges we have lost the country. Just a matter of time. Socialist left wingers want power. Anything they say regarding the good of the people is B.S.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I only hope our Canadian brothers would for once quit being so obliging, and do the same.... Do not allow it to happen.

I wish. We have something like 557,000 RPAL holders (people with a licence to possess "restricted" firearms, ie mostly handguns). Indeed, if all of us said, "No deal- we're not turning them in" it would create an enormous logistical hassle which would likely tie the government up for ages. But it won't happen.

In our case, it's not so much about defending ourselves, as our level of personal crime-violence is fairly low. It's about retaining a privilege (we don't have a "right") to pursue a sport many have enjoyed for decades. Somehow our idiot government thinks we are part of the "gun violence" problem. Bollocks!


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