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I don't think pete is a troll, I think he's just the real (ignorant) deal I just got back from Australia and New Zealand in February (cruise with wife) and loved it--hated the 15 hour flight from LA to Sydney, though. What you don't understand is that many Americans don't think that guns are for hunting and fun anymore. It's all about self defense for them. They live in a paranoid world where the Christian white man is threatened, even though that's who runs the country. Logic doesn't apply to them.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker
They live in a paranoid world where the Christian white man is threatened, even though that's who runs the country. Logic doesn't apply to them.


Right. There's never been a better time to be a Christian white man in America. Or around the world for that matter.



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do you gentlemen understand the written law on firearms in America ? do you understand firearm laws how they differ in Australia,Canada ,England ,others and understand them ? Why would anyone ever continue to accept the firearm laws of Australia,Canada,England or any other country who denies that right to a lawful tax paying person to own and keep firearms at home for protection,hunting or target practice fun when they want to use them in a lawful manner?also private sales of legal firearms is private sales and should have remained that way in all countries. to many laws from government is a liberal thing that leads to socialism and that does not work well. some of you say Americans are not as free as I think ? well I can walk in any firearm store and buy a firearm and walk out with it in less than a half hour with ammo take it home and where I live lawfully shoot that firearm all day any day sunrise to sunset so in your country can you ? plus I can give that legal firearm as a gift to my son or daughter lawfully with no government paper work also . can you ? who`s more free ?


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Originally Posted by pete53
do you gentlemen understand the written law on firearms in America ? do you understand firearm laws how they differ in Australia,Canada ,England ,others and understand them ? Why would anyone ever continue to accept the firearm laws of Australia,Canada,England or any other country who denies that right to a lawful tax paying person to own and keep firearms at home for protection,hunting or target practice fun when they want to use them in a lawful manner?also private sales of legal firearms is private sales and should have remained that way in all countries. to many laws from government is a liberal thing that leads to socialism and that does not work well. some of you say Americans are not as free as I think ? well I can walk in any firearm store and buy a firearm and walk out with it in less than a half hour with ammo take it home and where I live lawfully shoot that firearm all day any day sunrise to sunset so in your country can you ? plus I can give that legal firearm as a gift to my son or daughter lawfully with no government paper work also . can you ? who`s more free ?



The gift that keeps on giving.

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, is all about saving lives and protecting people from harm—by not letting guns fall into the wrong hands. It also ensures the timely transfer of firearms to eligible gun buyers.

Mandated by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 and launched by the FBI on November 30, 1998, NICS is used by Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) to instantly determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to buy firearms. Before ringing up the sale, cashiers call in a check to the FBI or to other designated agencies to ensure that each customer does not have a criminal record or isn’t otherwise ineligible to make a purchase. More than 230 million such checks have been made, leading to more than 1.3 million denials.

NICS is located at the FBI’s Criminal Justice Information Services Division in Clarksburg, West Virginia. It provides full service to FFLs in 30 states, five U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia. Upon completion of the required Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 4473, FFLs contact the NICS Section via a toll-free telephone number or electronically on the Internet through the NICS E-Check System to request a background check with the descriptive information provided on the ATF Form 4473. NICS is customarily available 17 hours a day, seven days a week, including holidays (except for Christmas). Please be advised that calls may be monitored and recorded for any authorized purpose.

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Originally Posted by pete53
......well I can walk in any firearm store and buy a firearm and walk out with it in less than a half hour with ammo take it home and where I live lawfully shoot that firearm all day any day sunrise to sunset so in your country can you ?
Of course I can except it only takes the time it takes to show my firearms license and hand the money over. I can use any firearm from sunrise until the next sunrise too. I also can own and buy any amount of sound moderators/suppressors/silencers without any questions asked or any paperwork and always have been able to. Can you?

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plus I can give that legal firearm as a gift to my son or daughter lawfully with no government paper work also . can you ?
..Yes, I can give away my entire gun collection lawfully to anyone who has a current relevant firearms license. Such a license is available to any citizen who undergoes a police background check, referee check and security check (all done at the same time of application and valid for 10 years unless revoked for serious crimes or firearm offences). The police cannot refuse a firearms license to any member of the public without a lawful reason to do so. I can own any amount of handguns, rifles, shotguns or military style semi auto's too. I should know as I work for the police in the department dealing with firearms. Handguns and some military semi's require an endorsement to the standard firearms license.




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>>Excellent I hope all read these posts in a positive thought . maybe even Mr. Stuart can ? or maybe try to smile ? it won`t hurt much.


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Thanks for clarifying the nature of varmints found there...

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PLZ CLARIFY Umm, just so you know for future reference "asking us to go out for a few beers" is definitely not the same as "go to the pub for a few beers".

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One is asked to "go out" if one is a prospect, one "goes to the pub" for a beer.


Translation:

1 = sore arse.
2 = few beers with mates.


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Thanks for clarifying the nature of varmints found there...


Those creatures are found everywhere John, and it pays to keep a wary eye out for them.

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Originally Posted by pete53
do you gentlemen understand the written law on firearms in America ? do you understand firearm laws how they differ in Australia,Canada ,England ,others and understand them ? Why would anyone ever continue to accept the firearm laws of Australia,Canada,England or any other country who denies that right to a lawful tax paying person to own and keep firearms at home for protection,hunting or target practice fun when they want to use them in a lawful manner?also private sales of legal firearms is private sales and should have remained that way in all countries. to many laws from government is a liberal thing that leads to socialism and that does not work well. some of you say Americans are not as free as I think ? well I can walk in any firearm store and buy a firearm and walk out with it in less than a half hour with ammo take it home and where I live lawfully shoot that firearm all day any day sunrise to sunset so in your country can you ? plus I can give that legal firearm as a gift to my son or daughter lawfully with no government paper work also . can you ? who`s more free ?



Pete,
Do you know what Socialism is?
I bet you dont.
Do you know how socialist your country is. Bet you don't.
You enjoy the Socialism in your country everyday, oblivious to that fact.
And you even hope to become dependant on socialism one day. And you don't even know that.

Public owned, taxpayer funded anything, is in fact socialism.
It works better than pure capitalism, but, you don't understand that either.
Gun grabbing is more communist, but it's not a goal, just a side effect.

Taking guns with an aim to make a people subservient is actually Totalitarian.
But you didn't know that.
Or, what it is.

Now, there has not been a country that fit any of these pigeon holes in your lifetime.
They have been a combination of several.

Fascism was probably the purist system. Only because the definition is wrapped around the examples.
And experts don't really agree on what exactly Fascism is.


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oh yes I realize America is getting more socialize and there are many more liberal`s like you too. do I care what you kinda think you know ? NOPE ,but I am sure glad you pointed so much out for me and others. do I fit in with you liberals my answer is just a simple NO.


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You are a dips hide calling me a liberal.
My post states fact. Unless you are going to forgo Social Security.
It does not show how I feel about those issues.

The fact that I am aware, of the information may give a hint.


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