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Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: David_Walter] #13124680 09/11/18
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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Jordan,

While I like the additional 40 MOA with the Burris and 20 MOA Talley option.

1. is it really needed? On the Ballistic software, the 6.5 Creedmoor 140 BTHP American gunner is only 31 MOA/9 MILs adjustment at 1,000 yards. It seems the regular Talley's would work with a 6x or 10x MQ.

2. If you have to add a cheek pad, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a very lightweight rifle? Or, even with the added weight, is it much less than a similar Montana, etc.?



Or, is that combo more about rugged than about extra elevation?

I like rugged and not having to worry about my scope/mounting system crapping the bed. That's why I swapped out the Talley LW's, and that's what the system is geared toward. I went with the 0 MOA rail on this rifle to try and get the rear of the scope down a little lower, and Talley told me that the difference between the 0 MOA and 20 MOA rail is mainly in the height of the rear of the base. That's what made that decision for me. I'd be happy if there were other, lower options with the ruggedness of a rail, but the selection is currently very limited.

The XTR Sig rings do several things that I like. They grip like the devil, they mitigate mis-aligned rings and having to lap (as sometimes happens with Talley LW's), and they allow me to add enough cant to bottom out the elevation in the erector assembly.

The twist rate, mag box latitude, throating, 5 screw holes for the scope base, and rugged scope/mount setup is the advantage of that rifle. I don't mind stock packs at all, and kind of like them for certain things like storing my DOPE card, an allen key for the turrets, etc.

It's obviously not a perfect setup as is, and if Burris or Warne come out with a low base that's compatible with the 1913 pic-spec rings, I'll be happy to make the switch from the overly tall Talley rail.


Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: edapp] #13125134 09/12/18
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If Warne or Burris comes out with a low base I will be at the front of the line!

Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: edapp] #13125330 09/12/18
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I've heard through The Grapevine,that the (5) 8x40's mated to a 20 MOMO rail,with 40 MOMO 'Horn's,prolly do an erector favors(EVERYTHING Below zero,is 100% fhuqking USELESS) and ring spacing "prolly" helps zero retention. Not that I don't enjoy a High Pitched Nasal Whine from a fhuqking Snowflake,who only "shoots" her mouth and Imagination. Hint. Laffin'!

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Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: edapp] #13125354 09/12/18
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Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: David_Walter] #13125367 09/12/18
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Hard to tell true height compared to the Talley base..... If the picture is a true picture of the Leupold base, it looks like it only has 4 holes.....if there's 5 holes on the action I'd rather use all 5 than only 4.

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Hard to tell true height compared to the Talley base..... If the picture is a true picture of the Leupold base, it looks like it only has 4 holes.....if there's 5 holes on the action I'd rather use all 5 than only 4.


I'm a big fan of over engineering, but, have you been having problems with four-hole 8X40 bases coming loose? Damn near every Remington 700 and clones use 4 holes and smaller screws, and work fine.


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Nope, I've not had a problem. I'd still rather have the hole filled with a screw than sitting empty.

Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: JCMCUBIC] #13139783 09/18/18
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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Nope, I've not had a problem. I'd still rather have the hole filled with a screw than sitting empty.


Just received the Leupold mount.

It has five holes, and five screws.

and it was $25 less than the comparable Talley mount.


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Hard to tell true height compared to the Talley base..... If the picture is a true picture of the Leupold base, it looks like it only has 4 holes.....if there's 5 holes on the action I'd rather use all 5 than only 4.


I'm a big fan of over engineering, but, have you been having problems with four-hole 8X40 bases coming loose? Damn near every Remington 700 and clones use 4 holes and smaller screws, and work fine.

Originally Posted by David_Walter
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Hard to tell true height compared to the Talley base..... If the picture is a true picture of the Leupold base, it looks like it only has 4 holes.....if there's 5 holes on the action I'd rather use all 5 than only 4.


I'm a big fan of over engineering, but, have you been having problems with four-hole 8X40 bases coming loose? Damn near every Remington 700 and clones use 4 holes and smaller screws, and work fine.


The intent of the extra hole in the front was to provide flexibility of the position of the front mount, not for added strength. Thats just a side benefit when using a rail.

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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Nope, I've not had a problem. I'd still rather have the hole filled with a screw than sitting empty.


Just received the Leupold mount.

It has five holes, and five screws.

and it was $25 less than the comparable Talley mount.


Nice! Would you be so kind as to throw a caliper on the rear end of the base and measure the height? Would be interesting to see if the Leupold is any lower than the Talley.

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Thanks David!

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Timely topic. I too am interested in the lowest possible rail/ring combo for a Fieldcraft.

Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: edapp] #13140647 09/18/18
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I’m getting 0.380” in the back and 0.345” in the front.


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Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: edapp] #13141314 09/19/18
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It looks like the Talley flat base is ~.46 in the rear. A Talley 20 MOA base is ~.485 in the rear. These are mounted so I couldn't get the front....and could be a touch off on the rear measurements but should be pretty close.

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Nice to know that the Leupold base also has the 5 holes. Thanks David!

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Originally Posted by David_Walter
I’m getting 0.380” in the back and 0.345” in the front.


Just to confirm, that is the height from the top of the receiver to the top of the rail?

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Originally Posted by prm
Originally Posted by David_Walter
I’m getting 0.380” in the back and 0.345” in the front.


Just to confirm, that is the height from the top of the receiver to the top of the rail?


Not speaking for David but that is how I measured the Talley base. The receiver is rounded so I measured from the highest point of the rounded action to the top of the rail....it would measure higher across the lower edges (bottom of rounded edges) to the top.

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Thanks, the rounded part is exactly what I was wondering about.

Re: Barret Fieldcraft scope mounting options [Re: David_Walter] #13141420 09/19/18
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Originally Posted by David_Walter
I’m getting 0.380” in the back and 0.345” in the front.


Those heights are pretty reasonable. Great find!

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