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Sounds like he did everything well enough to live another day. If you've never been around dog nuts they are a different lot. They don't think anything of bear or cat encounters and it's very common for them to try and get everything on film.

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Sounds like he did everything well enough to live another day. If you've never been around dog nuts they are a different lot. They don't think anything of bear or cat encounters and it's very common for them to try and get everything on film.

Biggest take away I have from this story is dumb schit [bleep] that wouldn't know a spring from a dilddo convincing people to download their mags.

I'm sticking with my Glock 40, long slide 10mm and Federal Trophy Bonded 180 grain SP. Of course we don't have any grizzly bears in Florida, but what the hey,

All magazines or just the reloads?
Some fully loaded mags are hard to seat with the slide in battery.

Many double stacks are more difficult if fully loaded.
Glock for sure. Not a huge deal, but it is easy to see a problem if one is jacked up and distracted.

Just looking for a reason to download.

I fully load mags, but I don't mess with a single for the chamber.
I have glock mags that have been loaded for 21 years.
They only get a break to be shot empty once in a while, then reloaded.
They all work fine

I worked off-duty security at a couple of dog shows. I just thought I knew what dog show contestant's owners were like. I was wrong. I have never seen such, IMHO, a waste of effort and time in a group of like-minded people. I suppose they would consider some of my hobbies as a waste of time. However, I'm fairly certain than hairspray and blowdryers were developed with grooming human hair as their primary function.


There were actually some LEOs I knew who kept their magazines downloaded by 1 or even 2 rounds. They insisted it saved spring strength and made their magazines function better. I always told them the gun manufacturersspent millions of dollars on R&D, and if they found downloading the mags worked better, the mags would come with less capacity but with the same spring. They'd look at me like I didn't have a clue in the world about the function of semiautomatic handguns and rifles. It's truly amazing what foolishness some people can convince themselves of partaking in.

Glad the man made it out alive. To me it sounds like a poor ammo choice for "woods carry". He would be much better served with a hard cast 200-220 grain load or even a 200 grain full metal jacket. Penetration is the key. If your worried about a two legged animal attack, any of the loads that I suggested will punch .40 holes through a crazy methhead. When carrying my Glock 20 in the big Timber of southern Ohio, it's loaded with Double Tap 220 grain HCFN. More for big stray dogs and the odd wild boar, but there are a few black bears there and it's better to be safe than sorry. Also, I feel totally safe carrying my Glock 27 compact .40 S&W with a Lone Wolf barrel loaded with Buffalo Bore or Double Tap 200 grain hard cast. Switch barrels back and load her up with 180 grain Federal HST for the ride home.

Ron

I have carried on duty, for 15 years, a Para Ordnance P-14 (for 9 years) and a Glock 20 (for 6 years). I never experienced any difficulty seating a full magazine on a weapon that had the slide in battery...never.

I try not to leave my mags loaded for more than a month. If nothing else, I'll unload it at home, then reload it and put it where I had it. I don't have an abundance of fully loaded mags at home, but they are all Glock 20/40 mags. They all have 15 in the mag. If I strip one off to go in the barrel, I drop the mag and top it off. The capacity of a Glock 20 is 16 rounds. Why anyone would carry it with less, absent an asinine 10-round capacity limit, is a mystery to me.

Not to be contrarian, however it’s pretty standard to download pistol mags on the belt/pocket by 1 round where I work. Have seen numerous times under stress, compromised positions, physical fatigue, or when wounded dudes not seat a fully loaded double stack pistol mag with the slide closed. Not everyone does it, and if a person doesn’t see the need after rigorous and extremely stressful training, then they rock on.

I don’t do it with 1911’s, not with low capacity pistol mags, but with G19/17’s, P320’s, etc. I do. 16 rounds instead of 17 rounds, with more consistent seating has shown to be a fair trade off for us.




Having said all that, my spare mags hold 24 rounds....