I’ll probly stager the 147 gr hard cast and the 147 gr gold dots. That’ll do it. The Buffalo bore 147 are designed to penetrate 4-5 ft, gold dots around 14”.
What would be the point of alternating between gold dots and cast bullets? I can think of no advantages to having every other bullet being one that’s designed for shallow penetration.
And coming from a guy whose killed a few grizzly bears and skinned a few more, I would probably choose a 9mm over some alternative choices. Those choices being my fingernails, a dull pocketknife, or a 25ACP. But when I fished and hunted in grizzly country if I chose to carry a handgun it was most often a 44. They are incredibly powerful animals and capable of soaking up a tremendous amount of lead if they decide they ain’t giving it up today.
On 10 May, 1953, Bella Twin was hunting small game with her partner, Dave Auger, along an oil exploration cutline south of Slave Lake, in Alberta, Canada. She was 63 years old.
They saw a large grizzly bear coming toward them. Wishing to avoid an encounter, they hid off the side of the cut.
But the bear kept coming closer and closer. The bear got so close that Bella Twin thought it less risky to shoot the bear than to not shoot it. It was probably only a few yards away. Some accounts say 30 feet. Perhaps she saw it stop and start to sniff, as if it had caught their scent. We may never know.
She shot at the side of the bears head. Knowing animal anatomy very well (she was an experienced trapper, and had skinned hundreds, perhaps thousands of animals) she knew exactly where to aim to penetrate the skull at its weakest point.
She shot, the bear dropped. It was huge. She went to the bear and fired the rest of the .22 long cartridges that she had, loading the single shot rifle repeatedly, to “pay the insurance” as Peter Hathaway Capstick said. She made sure the bear was dead, and not just stunned. My father taught me the same lesson when I was 13.
Here is a picture of the bear's skull and the .22 caliber holes in the left side.
Sometimes it takes a fatally wounded large bear a number of minutes before it comes to the realization it's supposed to lay down and die. During that period of time, you will be in a fight to survive. 14 inch 9mm hollow point wound channels just make big bears vengefully angry unless you luckily place one round in the nervous system. My advice is big hard cast bullets that penetrate deep and shatter bones. I think 44 mag with 300 grain or a bigger caliber handgun is a minimum. If opting for a shotgun, go with copper sabot slugs. The best choice is a large caliber rifle.
Big griz can be packing 14" or more of fat throughout their body prior to hibernation. That depth of fat will absorb most handgun hollow point rounds before they reach something vital.
Last edited by Lennie; 09/19/18.
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TheKid, You don’t know much about ammo I see from your ignorance in your posts, why don’t you read the reviews and watch some videos on penetration tests before you post, check out the buffalo bore 147 gr description over at midway if you know what that is.
Y’all obviously haven’t seen how the gold dots penetrate and expand lately.
I shot a feral pig in the side of the head at 5 - 6 feet with a 9mm 124 Gold Dot and it ricocheted off the skull. At the same distance, 45 ACP with 200 grain XTP penetrated deeply and made a hole the size of a golf ball.
Y’all obviously haven’t seen how the gold dots penetrate and expand lately.
I shot a feral pig in the side of the head at 5 - 6 feet with a 9mm 124 Gold Dot and it ricocheted off the skull. At the same distance, 45 ACP with 200 grain XTP penetrated deeply and made a hole the size of a golf ball.
SSSHHH, he doesn't want to hear stuff like that.............
While it's true that all liberals are crazy people, not all crazy people are liberals.
Some people don't want to hear the truth, they want to hear that what they believe is the truth.
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
Y’all obviously haven’t seen how the gold dots penetrate and expand lately.
I shot a feral pig in the side of the head at 5 - 6 feet with a 9mm 124 Gold Dot and it ricocheted off the skull. At the same distance, 45 ACP with 200 grain XTP penetrated deeply and made a hole the size of a golf ball.
I smell BS, you must have shot it right down side the skull.
Y’all obviously haven’t seen how the gold dots penetrate and expand lately.
I shot a feral pig in the side of the head at 5 - 6 feet with a 9mm 124 Gold Dot and it ricocheted off the skull. At the same distance, 45 ACP with 200 grain XTP penetrated deeply and made a hole the size of a golf ball.
SSSHHH, he doesn't want to hear stuff like that.............
Damn right I know what I’ve experienced and tested, many different rounds and know what works.
Y’all obviously haven’t seen how the gold dots penetrate and expand lately.
I shot a feral pig in the side of the head at 5 - 6 feet with a 9mm 124 Gold Dot and it ricocheted off the skull. At the same distance, 45 ACP with 200 grain XTP penetrated deeply and made a hole the size of a golf ball.
I smell BS, you must have shot it right down side the skull.
Just reporting first hand results responsive to the question. I have had the opportunity to shoot a lot of pigs over the last several years, most with 175 SMK’s. About to go put some deer with feral pig sausage in the pan right now.
For your viewing pleasure, the weak sister 308 with 175 SMK’s. My young nephew provides the narration.
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