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My buddy has a Winchester 43 in 25-20 with an old weaver 6x scope he is wanting to trade me. I see a lot of these in 218 bee and 22 hornet but don't see them much in 25-20. What is the going price for one in decent condition.

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I have only encountered one Winchester M43 in 25-20 and that was probably 10 years ago, if not more. If I remember correctly it was priced $650. But Im sure they are higher than that now.

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Would love to know the serial # of the gun .

I have collected 43's for years and you don't see many in this caliber that where setup for a scope from the factory . Hence reason for asking for the serial # .

Any pictures would be great also .

The 25-20 and 32-20 are the hard ones to find and if it happened to be a "Deluxe" even better !

Beware there are allot of fake deluxe models out there . I see them all the time on Gunbroker .

If the gun is correct you are in the $2000 - $3000 range .

Anyhow just my 2 cents worth .

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The easiest way to determine if a M43 is factory d&t for a scope is to examine the front face of the rear receiver ring. On early rifles that were not factory d&t the front face of the rear receiver ring has a milled 45-degree bevel. This bevel was eliminated on later production guns that were factory d&t for scope use....


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THIS ^^^^^^^ kind of knowledge is what makes this place such a resource!


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If the gun was sent back to the factory for D&T the factory would add proof marks show they did the work .

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Originally Posted by MAINER1234
If the gun was sent back to the factory for D&T the factory would add proof marks show they did the work .



What proof mark would they add? What does it look like?

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^^^^ And where do they put it?

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This one isn't the deluxe model as it doesn't have the checkering. I will try to get some pics up. I need to check that receiver ring to see if it was factory drilled and tapped or not. Keep the info coming.

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Check the serial number.....if it is under 31,000, it almost certainly is not factory drilled and tapped. The transition occurs between 31,000 and 32,000.

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I have 3 Winchester model 43s. The first one is in 25-20 ser # 65xx.(1949) The second one is in 218 Bee ser # 31xxxA.(1950) The third one is in 22 Hornet ser # 14xxx.(1950) None of these are drilled. I firmly believe Pocono Jack is correct.

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Originally Posted by BLR358WIN
I have 3 Winchester model 43s. The first one is in 25-20 ser # 65xx.(1949) The second one is in 218 Bee ser # 31xxxA.(1950) The third one is in 22 Hornet ser # 14xxx.(1950) None of these are drilled. I firmly believe Pocono Jack is correct.


He is absolutely right and that change occurs between serial number 31,000 and 32,000

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Would the factory marking be an "A" at the end of the serial number? The reason is this one has a serial number of 255xxA. The x's are actually numbers. I just didn't want to give the full serial number out. I actually think this one is factory drilled and tapped. But the serial number is before the 31k range as listed above. But I read elsewhere that an A on the end denotes a change and in this case a swooped bolt handle And drilled and tapped.

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The front face of the rear receiver ring will definitively indicate if the gun is factory d&t.
How about posting pics?


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Look at picture #9 in this auction. You can see the beveled bridge and the serial number is 27XXXA. This gun was not factory drilled and tapped. Why do you think 255XXA is factory drilled?

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A few years back I had an early Deluxe model in .25-20 that had been drilled and tapped. Whoever mounted the scope drilled thru the serial number. What a shame. It was a nice looking gun.


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