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I got you.....I should have said above 65K in any gun smile


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FWIW I just checked and have Hornady's fifth edition. It lists 52.7gr as max for H4350 and 53.7gr as max for IMR 4350.

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Good post. I am relativly new to the 280. Your velocity #'s are pretty similar to what I am getting. In my expierience w/ a 280 Rem 700 Mtn Rifle, 22" barrel; RL-19 gave best velocity and accuracy w/ 140's, H4350 gave good accuarcy, but less velocity in 140's. H4831 worked real well as far as accuracy with 150's. I have also tried IMR4350 and IMR4831 but they did not fare as well as the above mentioned powders. My next 280 will wear a 24" tube. Also, the throat on my gun is short. Most bullets I can not load to SAAMI max length. One anomaly I found is difference in cases between lots in Remington brass. I had a lot I worked up my loads with, then switched and everything was 150fps less. I weighed empty cases from both lots and sure enough the new lot weighed considerably less, so had to adjust charges. I have not expierienced this to so much degree in other calibers I load for.

Would love to hear what bullets folks have had good success with on game. I am probably going to be taking mine goat hunting this fall, and would like to use the 150 partition if they shoot well. How about 140 accubonds, 150 sierra GK's any success?

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Originally Posted by TomM

Would love to hear what bullets folks have had good success with on game.


You just can't beat 140 & 150 grain Partitions. Some others are as good, none really better.

Also best velocity with both will be with RL19 & RL22.

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Agree with Montana Man on bullets and powder; went through the same drill with components back when RL22 had first come out (I forget the year)and I got best accuracy and velocity with RL22 and te 140 Partition. Lots more bullets today but that powder makes the 280 talk.




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TomM,

I only have game experience with my 280 using 139gr. SSTs/IMR 4831 at almost 3K fps. I killed 4-5 whitetails from 40-220 yards and they worked just fine. Had two cases where the exits were rather large but nothing horrible and nothing that I would in anyway state "failure". For lung shooting deer they're pretty dang good. I'm switching to the standard Hornady SPs in the same weight though as they're readily available locally and probably won't tear up as much meat on deer that I shoot. The places I hunt in NC and WV you could plan for a 200+ yard shot but would end up getting a 30 yarder on a quartering deer. I don't think that the SST would "fail" me as much as it would tear up more delicious red meat than I'd like. Of course SE whitetails aren't a real tough test for any bullet in my experience. I've found that a 243/100gr put it's to them in good fashion so my tackle doesn't need to be very hardcore.


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TomM,

You, like myself, have discovered the beauty of matching bullet wt to powder burn rate to obtain maximum performance in the .280Rem. My experience pretty well mirrors yours. When you get you a 24" bbl, you'll have a nice .280 that you can handload and rival the performance of 7mmRM factory ammo.

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Back when I shot the 160 gr. Nosler Partition, I seem to recall using H4831 at 56.5 grs., Rem brass for just under 2700 fps. It shot under an inch out of my 22 inch barrel Rem Mtn Rifle.
At that speed, that bullet still expands and kills very well at over 400 yds.
Whatever I work up, I always test my loads in as warm a temperature as I will use them at 5% over that. If they don't show me ejector marks or are in any way sticky upon extraction, they are OK. All book data is just a guide. So is Quick Load. I've seen Quick Load give loads that were so hot that the cases could hardly being extracted.
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H4831 and 150 Partitions are sweet loving in a 280. Here's this years blacktail buck taken with JB's pet load. This load has actually tighten up a little with Nosler brass.
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Is that a 24" CDL, or a 22" Mtn Rifle? That is a dandy load, and shoudl push 2900fps+. Can't beat that on deer sized game! NICE!


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It's a CDL spitting 2960 by my chrony. I bedded it and tweaked the trigger. My new micky mt rifle stock showed up last week from Rick, no picks of it right now. Swapped the scope for a 3.5-10x40 vxiii in talley light wieghts. Sounds familiar huh.



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I got one just like it. Bedded, recrowned, trigger worked. Its showed great promise with 139 Interbonds. I just loaded some up the other day over some VV-N160. If I get some time on a day where the wind aint kickin' up 20+mph, I will go shoot it and post some pics.


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Originally Posted by .280Rem
I got one just like it. Bedded, recrowned, trigger worked. Its showed great promise with 139 Interbonds. I just loaded some up the other day over some VV-N160. If I get some time on a day where the wind aint kickin' up 20+mph, I will go shoot it and post some pics.


Hey .280 Rem, where you at with that VV-N160 to equal your 59gr RL19 load? 57-58grs?


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Ruger,

I had some flawed data due to my bad documentation skills or something like I misread or mis-set some scales...but VV-N160 is about a grain faster than R-19 in the current lots I have. I had written down I had loaded it behind 154s at 59grs, but when I tried that last behind 139s it sent them screaming out at 3200fps! TOO HOT! So, with the lots I have, and I jsut loaded a batch to test of 57 and 58 grs I'm looking at 3100 give or take in a 24" bbl. Just gonna see if accuracy is there or not.


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Great let us know how the accuracy is. I have my eye on a 2lb bottle at Sportsman's Warehouse. For some reason the 160 is the only one they can keep in stock, they have not had any other in stock for quite a while now.

Should work great in my 338wm I load for as well.


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If you can, get you the N560. Vihtavuori claims it to be a touch slower than N160, and its known to be even better than N160, though I have no experience with it. Both are available now at Midway. I would think the N160 or N560 would be the cats meow in a .338WinMag with 200-225s.


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I originally looked for N560 but was unable to find it, though I haven't looked that hard. I believe it is only a couple bucks more but allegedly a better powder. I bet Basspro or Cabelas carry it.

The shipping costs to order are outrageous...


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