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You have $700 for the rifle, $400 for the scope, and $100 for the rings. No after-market parts for the rifle other than a sling. No range finder. Factory ammo only; one load must do it all. Shooting prone from a backpack rest. Continental North America. Antelope, deer, moose, elk, caribou, sheep, goat, bison, wolf, and bears. The 30-06 or the 6.5 Creedmoor are your only two choices. KISS applies for all tie breakers. Once you step away from the plane, boat, or truck you are humping this rifle in - no horses, no ATV... Describe your medicine and tell me why. Describe how you set up your ballistic dope chart for the hunt.
My pick is M700 Long Range in 30-06, Burris with Ballistic Plex reticle, Federal 180 grain blue box or Premium Partition.
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Curious on your reason for the constraint on the range finder?
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yes, no range finder... improvise...
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Whichever cartridge I'd want a barrel lighter than that varmint contour on the 700 Long Range.
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Whichever cartridge I'd want a barrel lighter than that varmint contour on the 700 Long Range. i was thinking the same thing ...
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my thinking is the longer, heavier barrel adds some stability for the shot, and a bit more mojo for a flatter trajectory for the 30-06, and given no rangefinder, every little bit helps.
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M700 LR, really? that would be at the bottom of my list.
I think a Barret or Kimber in 6.5 with a good scope you can dial, handloads with a 142 LRAB or 127 TTSX
I would even give thought to having two scopes a heavy scope with turrets and a light scope with dots.
The heavy scope on the plains and the light scope in the mountains.
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you are busting the $ limits
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you are busting the $ limits Oooh sorry, my reading comprehension sucks. Missed no rangefinder also. Ok so with those conditions I vote for a Ruger Hawkeye in 30-06 loaded with 168TTSX with a Leupold 6x
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Just to go along with a pretty silly topic.....you're confusing balance with stability. Also the extra barrel length on your 3006 is pretty meaningless....
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heck, i am glad to make it this far without someone hating on the 30-06.
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Tikka 30-06 Leupold vx3 Hornady precision hunter if it has to be factory
As far as dope chart, I’m gonna go with holdovers via a BDC style reticle. Verify distances before the hunt and paste em on the rifle.
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I would go to Gunbroker and buy this Sako 30-06 with the Leupold scope for $799.99. Then I would sell that scope for $200.00 and since the gun already has rings, I would take the remaining money and buy this used German Zeiss Diavari 3-9X36 scope on ebay, and buy 165 grain ammunition for it and go hunting. I would sight the gun in at just under 1 inch high at 100 yards, and hold the vertical point of the "Z" plex right on for 300 yards and I could kill anything in North America with that combination. Your point blank distance with that setting is still 200 yards and at 300 you put that point on the target and hit it. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/785930534eBay item number:352474820948
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Browning abolt 30’06 just took a nice 8pt last year at 495 yards. Complete pass through, hornady 165 BTSP interlock bullet loaded to 2850 FPS. NO flies on the old ‘06. Wouldn’t shoot at an animal at much further than that-600 yards tops.
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My pick is M700 Long Range in 30-06, Burris with Ballistic Plex reticle, Federal 180 grain blue box or Premium Partition.
I vote your set up as “most useless”
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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THE Remington 700 is fine for the rifle and 30-06 is fine too, but I want a Leupold over a Burris
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Burris/Tikka both give me a case of the s hits!!
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LRH forum, and LRF is what makes LRH practical to some degree, for most of us. How far do you plan on shooting that setup?
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i could have phrased the question better. let me use an analogy: i have bowhunting buddies who use compounds with four pins set at 10, 20, 30, and 40 yards and they can consistently hit 9" pie plates at those ranges with those setups. but some of them use mechanical broadheads, and so won't shoot at a game animal at 40 yards, for fear of inadequate penetration. others are confident to shoot plates at 40 yards but not game animals past 20...regardless of broadhead. I use a recurve and won't chance a shot on deer past 20 yards.
so with respect to LRH, if you are going to limit yourself to very simple equipment, no range finder, no turret twisting, etc. then what "primitive" combo sets you up for success and what would your longest comfortable range for that setup be? So, to use Shrapnel's reply for example, he seems extremely confident with that setup he described out to 300 yards, and perhaps further, where he is relying on his experience, knowledge of chosen load's trajectory, how to dope wind, estimated range to an animal given its size in the scope, and how to extract the most out of his reticle for ranging.
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I would do a Tikka stainless (or a Browning X-bolt but that might exceed your price), a Burris or Sig Whiskey scope with battistic reticle, Warne rings on the Tikka (the ones that clamp directly on the dovetail and have the recoil lug in them) or a DNZ one piece on the X-bolt. Ammo would be Federal of some sort, either 165 or 180 grain for the larger critters out west.
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