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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
I have had a couple of stand out loads that are very uniform in their accuracy which is very sub MOA in my Model 70 Featherweight.
150 Partition over 62 grains of H 4350 and CCI 200 primer and 175gn Barnes LRX over 60 grains of H 4350 and the same primer.

Work up from below and maybe they will shine in your own .30/06.
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Tag for my records.....I need to research the 175 LRX a bit.... Thanks AGW

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Finally tried H-4350 in my Tikka T3 30-06 and hit pay dirt right off the bat! Getting the accuracy of IMR-4064 and velocity of the 4350s! SWEET!

3-shots @100 yards.

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Bullet: Speer 165 gr. BTSP
Powder: Hodgdon H-4350 58.0 grs.
Primer: Federal 210
Case: Norma New (Headspace - 2.042 with Stoney Point)
LOAL: 3.300 (2.691 base to ogive with Stoney Point gage)
Avg. Velocity: 2806.44 fps
Extreme Spread: 22.07
Standard Deviation: 12.16

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Speer 170 grain flat point, Federal case, Remington 9 1/2 primer, 45 gr IMR 4064, OAL 3.17 velocity 2450 fps. Had some 30-30 bullets leftover. This is a good 303 British class load. Polite to.shoot and quite accurate from my 7600 Remington.


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My Kimber Subalpine is super accurate with a 165gr TTSX over 53.5 grains of H4350 and a CCI large rifle primer. I have never chronographed this load but I know its not hot at all and thats the way I like it......Easy on the throat 👍......Hb

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Has anyone tried seating bullet at different oal

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Originally Posted by Muddly
Speer 170 grain flat point, Federal case, Remington 9 1/2 primer, 45 gr IMR 4064, OAL 3.17 velocity 2450 fps. Had some 30-30 bullets leftover. This is a good 303 British class load. Polite to.shoot and quite accurate from my 7600 Remington.
I might try this with the Nosler Partition170gr RN. It's a 30/30 class bullet, too. Easy on the shoulder. Hell on deer.


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For a 180 Hornady SP... H4350 from 56-59.5 gr with F210's and R-P cases all grouped under an inch in a 700 BDL. The best coming at 59 grains with a .62 group. Tried that load again with a WLR primer and got a .53 group. Velocities ranged from 2600-2760.

53 gr of IMR4064 with 2 different 150's were sub MOA with velocities in the 2940 range.

58 grains of IMR4350 and 165 Sierras were under half inch.


I dont know that any gun Ive ever owned has been so easy to load for and so accurate over as wide of a range of bullets as this one. Small wonder people love them, Recoil is a tad stiff on this one with no pad but manageable. Def a do-all round. Im kinda sentimental on this one as I killed my first deer way back with a 180gr WW round nose.

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First post - Love the site.

Taking my lead from an old federal loading now no longer in production I made the following load:

Barnes 110 grain TTSX flat base
Varget 58.5 grains
Lapua brass
Federal 210M primers
COAL 3.190 (measured from the federal commercial load)

Groups measured 0.4 inches out of a Browning Safari grade (three shots at 100 yards)
Velocity (LabRadar) = 3404 fps

Responsible for two whitetail does around 160 yards. Neither took a step.

Recoil is like a 7mm-08 reduced recoil load - Really fun to shoot. Just clean your barrel often.

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Originally Posted by JoeDee
Has anyone tried seating bullet at different oal


Always. every time a new bullet is tried.
2+1 means seat deeper.
3 apart means seat out further.
The finesse is being very subtle if the barrel is thin and whippy and a little more,, like 1/8th of a turn if the barrel is number 2 or more.


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Originally Posted by Snakeskin
First post - Love the site.

Taking my lead from an old federal loading now no longer in production I made the following load:

Barnes 110 grain TTSX flat base
Varget 58.5 grains
Lapua brass
Federal 210M primers
COAL 3.190 (measured from the federal commercial load)

Groups measured 0.4 inches out of a Browning Safari grade (three shots at 100 yards)
Velocity (LabRadar) = 3404 fps

Responsible for two whitetail does around 160 yards. Neither took a step.

Recoil is like a 7mm-08 reduced recoil load - Really fun to shoot. Just clean your barrel often.

Welcome Snakeskin!!! I will be trying out a very similar load to this and anticipate the good results you have seen. I really like sending the lighter per caliber TSX bullets as fast as possible. They are very effective with great penetration and expansion.

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This load is probably posted in here already by someone else, but here you go.
Factory Rem 700
Bedded in McMillan Classic
Cut at 18" and threaded
Win brass
CCI large rifle primer
155 Scenar
59 gr H4350
3.395 oal in my rifle with worn throat
4 shot group
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at 60 grains H4350 was only slightly larger

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Originally Posted by mathman
52 grains of IMR4064 and a 150.



When in HS (1974), an older friend taught me to reload. I was shooting a sporterized, surplus Springfield. 30-06. Loading 5 rounds, laser loading. Ended up with 52.5gr 4064 over a Win LR primer and 150 Sierra FB SP. Consistent 5 shot groups of 5/8", @ 100 yards and 1" - 1 1/2" @ 200.

Have NEVER loaded any other powder or 150 gr bullet.


Going on elk hunt in 1983, I decided I needed 180 gr. Using same type load ladder of 5 rounds, ended up with 54.5 gr H4831 and Hornady SP.


Recently acquired a classic Winchester Model 70, first trip to the range, took both loadings. Outstanding accuracy.

Grandson wanted a .30-06. Tried to talk him into a .260, 7-08, or .25-06. He insisted on .30-06.

Son got him a Savage for Christmas. We sighted the scope in and then shot a 3/4" 5 shot group. He fired 2 shots and hasn't touched the rifle since.

I'm thinking 115-125gr loaded around 2600-2800 fps would suit him better, for now. Any real world experience? Preferably using 4064, 4350, or 4831SC.




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I keep reading about these 4064 loads of over 50 grains some as much as 53 plus. I have 2 rifles in .30-06 that cannot handle over 49 grains without getting in trouble with pressure. One is a Weatherby Vanguard 2 with no alterations and the other is a M700 with a #4 Douglas barrel. Both are stainless but that probably has no bearing on the pressure issues. Both shoot exceptionally well and have good velocity. The 700 rifle shoots the 4064 best and the Vanguard is best with IMR 4350. It also pressures up with 4350 if I go much over 56 grains. My scales are accurate so as they say I let the rifle tell me what it likes.


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I like 130 gr. '06 loads for WT's and hogs. If a bullet will shoot thru a deer, why go heavier. And at 3+K fps, they hit like a magnum, kill quickly.

I like the 130 Horn SP, not the varmint version. Also have 125 NAB's. This load was with Ralph Council 130 BR quality bullets. Ralph says they work well on deer, just never tried it.

The gun was an HVA project rifle that turned out pretty well. Because it was so light, I went with lighter bullets to keep down recoil. I was amazed how well they killed, never tried heavier in that rifle.

BG is also a great powder in the 7-08. Ask Pharmseller about his 7-08 loads, or do a search here on the Fire.

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I’ve enjoyed this thread a lot. It’s been a good reminder of how each rifle is different. In a rush a couple of years ago, I loaded 165g accubonds with IMR 4350 and using Nosler recommended coal. My first string confirmed My T3x had a “slower barrel”. Ultimately, 59.5 grains brought velocity to 2830 with 3 rounds touching. I’ve been planning on tweaking seating depth to see if I could improve things (there is significant room to extend coal. However, with all my projects, I just haven’t gotten to it.

I’ve learned that loading without a chronograph is frequently an inefficient use of time/resources. There’s lots to learn if your paying attention. It will also provide early warning if you have a tight chamber (I have T3x in 270wsm that has one) or if you need to look at case expansion when other pressure signs are not present but velocities are unusually high.

Hope this thread keeps going.

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Just worked up a 200 Accubond load for my brother to go to on his Kodiak bear hunt this week. Using RL-17 was able to get the 200 Accubond to 2640 fps (16" barrel). Should be a decent setup for the little brush buster rifle.

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Originally Posted by the_shootist
If you can't get 57 of IMR4350 and a 165 gr to shoot, you got more issues than powder and a bullet. wink


Responding to a throw back thread, but oh well.

My Rem 700 will not shoot 57gr of IMR4350 w/165 gr anythings. Groups are like 1 1/2" at 100 yards with that load. The same rifle shoots 180gr bullets over 46.0gr of H4895 fantastic with groups <3/4" at 100 yards.

I've come to think there are no hard and fast loads that work in all guns, or maybe even MOST guns. There are just lots of loads that work in different rifles. Just have to search until you find it.

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Nosler recommended load and COAL for the 220 grain Partition using H4831SC puts 5 round groups just under 1 inch.

When I seat them deeper to where a cannelure typically would be (~3.297") my groups tighten to under 3/4 inch.

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Light load:

R-P cases with deburred flash holes and trimmed to book minimum
Sierra 150 grain round nose flat base(30-30 bullet)
CCI 200 Primer
40 grains IMR-4895
Bullets seated to bottom of cannelure

Velocity: Slow

1.5" 5 shot groups @ 100 yards in my heavily pitted bore 1930 1903 Springfield
Took a 5 point Kentucky buck on opening day at 85 yards. One shot through the ribs with an exit hole about the size of a golf ball.

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Originally Posted by eric1186
Light load:

R-P cases with deburred flash holes and trimmed to book minimum
Sierra 150 grain round nose flat base(30-30 bullet)
CCI 200 Primer
40 grains IMR-4895
Bullets seated to bottom of cannelure

Velocity: Slow

1.5" 5 shot groups @ 100 yards in my heavily pitted bore 1930 1903 Springfield
Took a 5 point Kentucky buck on opening day at 85 yards. One shot through the ribs with an exit hole about the size of a golf ball.


I've taken a lot of boys out over the years....when they are 12 to 14 or so... and carrying Grandpa's old 30/06 they were given...
that kicks the crap out of them...

but a 150 grain FN and 30 grains of IMR 4198... right at the 30/30 velocities....

shootable, rifle will kick less than a 30/30, due to a little more weight...and stock shape...

and on the average, more accurate than many 30/30s, especially Grandpa's old one that's hung in the closet for a long time...


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