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Buck Antelope-262 yards Kimber Montana 270Win 140gr Nosler Accubond. Closest to long range.
Doe Antelope-71 yards Kimber 84M Classic 338 Federal 185gr Barnes TSX. Long range belly crawl.

Still have my Iowa deer season and will likely use a Marlin 1895 45-70 and 300gr Ballistic Tips. Maybe my 629 44mag.

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Not long range, but fun hunting. For the third year in a row I went to Four Aces Ranch near Madras, Oregon. http://www.fouracesranch.net/contact.htm (451) 489-3467

I used a Weatherby Mark V six lug action in a Pendleton Composite Stock; which is nine ounces lighter than the factory setup. It has a Timney trigger set by the 'smith at twenty ounces. The barrel is a 24" about 8 1/4" twist that measures .600 at the muzzle. The muzzle has a home made brake. The Bushnell 6500 4 1/2-30X50 sets in Talley light weight rings. The cartridge neck and shoulder looks like a .257 or .270 Weatherby and was named by the 'smith "6.5Coyle". The powder capacity matches a .264 Win mag. The brass is necked down 7 Rem Mag Laupa with the belt turned off and the rim turned down to match a 9.3X64 Brenneke. The 6.5mm Hammer Sledgehammer 130 grain bullets were charged with H1000 sparked by Rem 9 1/2 Mag primers.

Jake, the guide, took us all over the 4,000 acres looking for a pig. Frustrated he said, “Normally we see a couple when we make that circuit.” After traveling over hill and dale in a four passenger quad we came around a bend into a small clearing and there were three big porkers. Tom, of MOA Precision, asked if I wanted to take one. Despite sighting the Weatherby in at about 250 yards and installing a bipod, I got out and range one: A whopping 24.8 yards. I informed, “I put this bipod on my rifle so I’m going to use it.” I laid down to fire. Jake said, “Put one behind the ear,” so I did. The pig weighed 320 pounds. But I wanted another.

Over hill and dale. Eventually we came to a clearing with a pink pig and a black pig. Tom volunteered to use my rifle in hopes of catching one of my bullets . I ranged the pig at 59 yards. Eventually the pink one turned face on and Tom fired. The Sledgehammer traveled 30 ” before exiting. Even the four petals exited. All of us were surprised. It weighed 290 pounds.


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Whitetail buck 250 yards, 7mm-300 Win 180 ELDM
Bull elk 850 yards, 7mm-300 Win 180 ELDM
Whitetail buck 250 yards, 6.5-284 Norma 143 ELDX

The 7-300 Win 180 ELDM also filled 2 mulie buck tags for others at 275 yards and 509 yards.


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Bull elk at 225 yards, Weatherby Mark V, .300 Wby 165 Barnes TTSX
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Didn't need many animals to fill the freezer this year, mostly due to my wife taking a VERY big cow elk last year, and me getting a good-sized mule deer buck and big pronghorn buck.

Ended the fall taking two mule deer bucks, one in New Mexico and one in Montana, both with "long-range" 6.5mm rounds. First, a Franchi Momentum in 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 143-grain ELD-X factory loads. The second I took with a 6.5 PRC, my Remington 700 custom rifle with a 24" Lilja, using it's most accurate handload with the 129 Nosler ABLR at around 3000 fps.

I lasered the the shots afterward: 101 on the New Mexico deer, 159 on the Montana buck.


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Probably tag soup again. Got sick the one damn week we get for gun season here in blowhio.

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Busy fall,

Spike elk- 30-06, 200 gr partition, Win M70, 15 yards
3x3 Coues - 6.5-06, 123 gr A-Max, Win M70, 320 yards
NRA LR Master card, sling, .308, 155.5 Berger, Win M70 Palma, 1000 yards


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
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Nothing long range yet. I had a couple opportunities, but didn't have a rifle with me I felt comfortable with at the 400+ yard ranges I had opportunities at.

I have, however, killed:

Turkey at 10 yards with a bow
Roosevelt elk bull at 238 yards-.300 H&H with 200 grain original speer grand slam
Mule deer buck at ~80 yards-.300 H&H with 200 grain original speer grand slam
Antelope buck at ~200 yards-.223 Rem with 62 TSX
Shiras moose bull at ~80 yards-.300 H&H with 200 grain original speer grand slam

I can't find a Rocky Mountain elk here in WY to save my life, but still have a few days
Got a Montana deer tag and an extra Wyoming cow elk I plan to fill still, and one never knows what kind of ranges will be involved.




Update: I took a 5x5 raghorn bull at almost exactly 600 yards on the last day of the general WY bull season. 6.5X284 NORMA and 140 berger. Chip shot.


Update #2. Took a somewhat young cow elk on Saturday via 6.5X284 NORMA at 228 yards with the 140 berger. Not impressed at all with the berger's on game performance........again......



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Would appreciate a detailed critique of the Berger performance.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Would appreciate a detailed critique of the Berger performance.


I think he is expecting performance like a plasma rifle in the 40KW range.

Originally Posted by T_Inman
I haven't had the best of experience with bergers but they've worked just as good as anything else I have tried lately. I have killed 3 elk with them in the last year and two ran 10-15 yards before tipping over, and the third stood there for several seconds before falling. No different than any more accepted bullet.

I did have some bad experiences with bergers when they first came out but I think they've either been changed (like the ballistic tip was changed), I got a bad lot at first or I just had really shïtty luck at first. Something.

I killed a bull on Wednesday at 600 yards with a 6.5mm 140 hunting berger and he didn't act any different than any elk I have thrown an AMAX, partition, accubond or hotcor through. He ran 10 or so yards and fell over. Last year's bull with the same everything acted the same way and a big cow last December is the one that stood still before falling over. Nothing mind blowing, but certainly not what I would call a failure. One thing's for sure, I have seen quicker kills with bergers than with any X bullet, though they work just fine too. Hell, I whacked a roosevelt bull this year at 238 yards with my .300 H&H and 200 grain original grand slam, and he acted like I hit him with a fly swatter. It took a second bullet into the neck to knock him down.


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My buddy and I have killed a LOT of stuff with the Bergers in the past 10 years, many of it with 180s out of a 7RUM or 7 WSM. In almost every case, exceptional performance.

On Saturday we had a hunter shoot a 6x6 bull with the RUM at fairly long range as her rifle wasn't going to work for a long shot. Bullet penciled right through and didn't expand at all. Took the bull a LONG time to finally die. They aren't perfect but normally, pretty darn good.

We shot 3 coues bucks at ranges from 600-800 yards in October and all the 180s expanded and killed nicely. Who knows why this one failed to expand on this elk.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Would appreciate a detailed critique of the Berger performance.


Quoting myself, from a different thread:

Originally Posted by T_Inman

140 berger, which I am putting on my shït list for the second time. The AMAXs were WAY better.

I fired a shot, to which she didn't flinch. I may have missed (I still don't know), despite the crosshairs being right where they needed to be. She stood there, but had quartered towards me as I jacked another round in. I shot a second time, aiming directly onto the onside shoulder, then she took off running. I found ZERO blood, even with all the snow. I followed her tracks for 60-80 yards, and found her bedded. Her head was up and she started chirping at her calf which was standing there in the trees. I put one more round directly into her neck from about 5 yards. I HATE it when they do that and actually kind of felt bad.

I looked for a bullet hole (besides the neck shot) and found nothing. After getting one shoulder off, I realized her lungs were absolute mush. How she was alive, let alone with her head up I will never know. Her offside shoulder was clean. No bloodshot meat, no nothing. Clean looking. The onside shoulder was broken and an absolute mess, which means the bullet(s?) penetrated that but didn't make it past the lungs, which supposedly is how these bullets are designed to work. I have absolutely no idea which shot (or if both) did all that damage. I can't blame her still being alive on the bullets as the lungs were absolutely DESTROYED, but I just can't bring myself to shoot another critter with those bullets. After shooting 4 elk and one mule deer with them this year and last, I have concluded that they're too erratic performance wise for me. My sample size is small, but my lack of confidence in them is HUGE.


To be clear: when I said "Not impressed at all with the berger's on game performance........again......"...I was referring to my experiences several years ago when the bergers were fairly new. I know a bigger sample size would be preferred, but Saturday evening I lost what little confidence I had in the bergers.



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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Would appreciate a detailed critique of the Berger performance.


I think he is expecting performance like a plasma rifle in the 40KW range.



Not at all. I just really hate it when a critter is bawling like this cow did, let alone with with a solid hit (possibly two) in the chest. This can happen with any bullet, but my experience with the bergers just isn't consistent.

YMMV.



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Pronghorn buck. 570 yards. Remington 700 SS 25-06. 110 Nosler Accubond.
Whitetail doe. 110 yards. Remington 700 BDL 270. 130 Ballistic Tip.

Hunting season here at home has been tough so far.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
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Would appreciate a detailed critique of the Berger performance.


I think he is expecting performance like a plasma rifle in the 40KW range.



Not at all. I just really hate it when a critter is bawling like this cow did, let alone with with a solid hit (possibly two) in the chest. This can happen with any bullet, but my experience with the bergers just isn't consistent.

YMMV.


We are victims of our bias and I read that you killed 3 out of 4 elk with a single bullet each out to 600yds and had finish one elk at 5 yards with a second.

Not all elk die with a single bullet and you seem to be doing fine.

I am failing to see the problem.


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So far...

8pt WT Buck - 6.5 PRC, 143gr. ELD-X, GAP rifle, 334 yds.

Coyote #1 - 6.5 PRC, 143gr. ELD-X, GAP rifle, 467 yds.

Coyote #2 - .204 Ruger, 40gr. V-MAX, GAP rifle, 241 yds.

Coyote #3 - .223, 77gr. TMK, semi-custom bolt gun, 117 yds.

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I got one fork-horn meat muley, one cow elk. Both were killed with a Savage Weather Warrior in 270 shooting some older 150gr SST's at 2980mv. The deer was shot offhand at 130yds in the neck, and the cow was shot at 420 yds quartering-to in the shoulder.

The older SST's have a reputation for being a bit frangible, but that particular one did a fine job on the elk. She was a larger-than-average cow, about 550lb, and the bullet shattered the humerus, busted a rib, clipped the heart, obliterated the lungs, and ended up under the hide toward the rear ribs on the opposite side. Lost it during skinning, but I don't really save that stuff. It gets lost in the loading room. Impact speed was about 2450, IIRC.


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